So, how is Pagos?

[Silica-chan]

Good grief... leveling in Pagos for lower level seems impossible... so, I just go back to Anemos doing NM train until EL 22, and after that going back to Pagos and it's still hard to find a group because most of them already at high level EL (including my guildies).

-story from a "late bloomer" in Eureka land-

Try the party finder instead of searching for a group inside of pagos.
Not sure how the situation is on your DC but on chaos I see pf groups looking for "lower" levels pretty regulary.
Usually these partys stay together for atlast 1 hour instead of people leaving after one NM forcing you to search for new people which should help you level up.

[Zsolen]

And some don't. If this was some optional zone where people want to go back to 1999 and do their thing, then fine. But they tied our relic to it. That's the biggest issue. We have no choice but to do content we hate.

It's a relic. It's shouldn't be just handed over.

[Nixxe]

It's a relic. It's shouldn't be just handed over.

Nobody is asking for it to just be handed over. They're asking for it to not be tied to content nobody would ever do otherwise because it's so badly designed and thoroughly unengaging.

[AlphaSonic]

It's a relic. It's shouldn't be just handed over.

It's a game. We should be mildly entertained at least.

[Zsolen]

Nobody is asking for it to just be handed over. They're asking for it to not be tied to content nobody would ever do otherwise because it's so badly designed and thoroughly unengaging.

It is not badly designed at all, though. You just don't like it. Funny how a small part of the people (all on the forums) want content to 100% focus on them, aside from raid content. If it doesn't focus on them, it must be bad!

[Ayer2015]

It's a relic. It's shouldn't be just handed over.

I mean, the devs could tie it to content that is actually fun and engaging. You know a game being fun and not a total chore.

[Kaonis]

It's a relic. It's shouldn't be just handed over.

No one asked for it to be handed over. That's a strawman fallacy. What people are and have asked for is engaging content so the grind isn't soul crushing. Eureka has been nothing but a grind for grinds sake.

It is not badly designed at all, though. You just don't like it. Funny how a small part of the people (all on the forums) want content to 100% focus on them, aside from raid content. If it doesn't focus on them, it must be bad!

But it is bad content. Objectively bad. It is quite literally an endgame zone that exists solely for you to grind trash mobs to level up to grind more trash mobs to eventually be able to grind trash mobs for a relic. It is low effort design by literal definition. The leveling grind exists to pad the grind out without offering any meaningful progression.

[Nixxe]

It is not badly designed at all, though. You just don't like it. Funny how a small part of the people (all on the forums) want content to 100% focus on them, aside from raid content. If it doesn't focus on them, it must be bad!

I don't raid, so as a casual this is like the big piece of content that is supposed to be for me. Thus far I've found about three whole people, either in the game or on the forums, that actually think it's a good piece of content. Compare that to the swarming throng of people who dislike it. I'm glad you're getting a hit of nostalgia from it, but nostalgia isn't content and does absolutely nothing for those of us who weren't playing whatever other game you're nostalgia-tripping over. A game should focus on pleasing its players, not another game's players.

[Zsolen]

I mean, the devs could tie it to content that is actually fun and engaging. You know a game being fun and not a total chore.

I find dungeons very boring, but I know a lot of other people like dungeons. That's why I don't demand that dungeons be very different. What you see as fun and engaging, others may not.

[Zsolen]

I don't raid, so as a casual this is like the big piece of content that is supposed to be for me. Thus far I've found about three whole people, either in the game or on the forums, that actually think it's a good piece of content. Compare that to the swarming throng of people who dislike it. I'm glad you're getting a hit of nostalgia from it, but nostalgia isn't content and does absolutely nothing for those of us who weren't playing whatever other game you're nostalgia-tripping over. A game should focus on pleasing its players, not another game's players.

I never played FFXI, and I am a player of FFXIV. I don't just post on the forums. Others don't normally speak up, when people actively choose to be bitter and angry.