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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Your only idea for SCH is sorta moot, since that's exactly what the fairie does as long as that target, ideally the tank, has the lowest HP below 80%, i think that's the number. Granted the AI is a bit flawed and she'll heal a DPS at 75% instead of the Tank at 20% sometimes, but she has a "gambit" if you will, if you played XII you know what I mean, but she has one that is rather solid for the most part.
    I'm not 100% clear on why the fairy targets who she does at any given time. However, I do know that if there are a large number of low HP targets, she will effectively start healing random players. This isn't as big an issue in standard contexts, because two healers can typically powerheal every boss attack immediately without relying on regens, resulting in the tank always having the lowest HP. However, if you're doing something like solo healing and/or if you want to optimize for DPS, you will often want to use Whispering Dawn to recover from heavy party damage when you know that there will not be more party damage in the immediate future. Meanwhile, the tank is still taking hits, forcing you to focus heal the tank while Eos runs wild on random players who don't need her help. This is why they introduced Fey Union - a very useful skill that allows you to override Eos' crappy AI and force her to heal the tank. However, as a Lv70 skill, this only solves the Fairy AI issue for Lv70+ content. For lower level content, the AI is still a massive handicap that is infuriating to deal with.

    A random example of when this can be a royal pain in the butt is solo healing T9. Party damage goes out and I cast Whispering Dawn to heal it up in the break between mechanic sets. Meanwhile, Nael's auto attacks and cleaves are extremely powerful, and yet Eos is off having a party healing the DPS who will be fully healed from regens in 10-15s anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki View Post
    I'm not 100% clear on why the fairy targets who she does at any given time. However, I do know that if there are a large number of low HP targets, she will effectively start healing random players.
    You are semi correct, in that the healing can feel lopsided/disjointed, but her targets aren't random. If everyone, including her is at lets say 50%, you, are her primary target for heals, then herself, then the closest party member with HP below the threshold, which I think is 80%. That's why you have those instances where she'll heal a DPS at 75% over a Tank at 20%, they are just a smidgen closer. I think that in an update she was given a new threshold limit to counter this, but it still has its issues; like if the new threshold is 50% but the Tank is at 51% she'll still target the DPS at 75% if they are closer.

    The system isn't perfect. I wont say that it is, but what you are asking for already exists, it just needs fine tuning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    You are semi correct, in that the healing can feel lopsided/disjointed, but her targets aren't random. If everyone, including her is at lets say 50%, you, are her primary target for heals, then herself, then the closest party member with HP below the threshold, which I think is 80%. That's why you have those instances where she'll heal a DPS at 75% over a Tank at 20%, they are just a smidgen closer. I think that in an update she was given a new threshold limit to counter this, but it still has its issues; like if the new threshold is 50% but the Tank is at 51% she'll still target the DPS at 75% if they are closer.

    The system isn't perfect. I wont say that it is, but what you are asking for already exists, it just needs fine tuning.
    So she will heal whoever is closest to her that is under 80% HP, or focus the tank if the tank's HP is less than 50%? If that is the case, I could then work around it by either:

    a) Manually placing Eos closer to the tank during the times where I need her to focus on tank heals.
    b) Maintaining the tank's health below 50% during that time.

    Is that correct?

    I'll give it a shot the next time I have a chance. It certainly is awkward to do, and simply changing Fey Union to Lv50 and adding a trait that buffs its heal potency at Lv70 would be a lot more straightforward, but if it actually works consistently, then it's still worthwhile.

    One issue seems to remain though. Wouldn't she focus on me over the tank? Just like the DPS, I'm getting healed by the regens, so I'll be sub-80% for several seconds. Even if I put her right on top of the tank, according to what you said, she would still focus on me until I'm over 80%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki View Post
    One issue seems to remain though. Wouldn't she focus on me over the tank? Just like the DPS, I'm getting healed by the regens, so I'll be sub-80% for several seconds. Even if I put her right on top of the tank, according to what you said, she would still focus on me until I'm over 80%?
    True, you are her primary target, but with you healing yourself, and her adding in an embrace you should be above 80% quick enough. And that's if she is following you, if you place her closer to the tank you may be out of her range. Don't quote me 100% on the values I mentioned, I just mostly wanted to let you know that her targets aren't as random as they seem. Don't forget that she is essentially a free Regen, you'll be doing most of the healing. So when you see a party member at like 50%, your heal and hers could be enough to get them above the threshold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    True, you are her primary target, but with you healing yourself, and her adding in an embrace you should be above 80% quick enough. And that's if she is following you, if you place her closer to the tank you may be out of her range. Don't quote me 100% on the values I mentioned, I just mostly wanted to let you know that her targets aren't as random as they seem. Don't forget that she is essentially a free Regen, you'll be doing most of the healing. So when you see a party member at like 50%, your heal and hers could be enough to get them above the threshold.
    Thanks for the tip. The content I do typically does not allow much if any time for me to casually heal myself just to manipulate her AI though, I'm afraid.
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