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  1. #11
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    Weren't you that same guy who complained about the rest of us having issues with Eureka, saying we shouldn't judge content we didn't complete (though we have)?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    I'm sorry, but I don't need to convince you.
    But If you want to judge the content before completing it, go ahead. I saw a lot of fus and BS about Eureka Anemos in the first day that were a lot exaggerated. Saying that the content was empty, nothing to do there, just mob grind and bla bla. They said they would not bother eureka, but at the end they leveled up to lvl 20, and are here complaining again with pagos. Guess what? They will be 35 at Logos and will complain about Logos too, in the launch day.
    Enjoy your time here judging content that you didn't complete know anything about.
    I'm loving pagos, it's something to do, long term based.
    Oh right, you are. Forgive me if I have a hard time taking everything you say to heart. I agree Eureka needs a change but I don't think your ideas are what it needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Weren't you that same guy who complained about the rest of us having issues with Eureka, saying we shouldn't judge content we didn't complete
    This thread was for Anemos, you can see it by it's date.
    Eureka Pagos is not "trash" as many players are saying, since patch day (absurd). Pagos is actually very good, and these suggestions are for improvement.
    I don't see ideas of yours tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    This thread was for Anemos, you can see it by it's date.
    Eureka Pagos is not "trash" as many players are saying, since patch day (absurd). Pagos is actually very good, and these suggestions are for improvement.
    I don't see ideas of yours tho.
    Yeah and you know what's a lot like Anemos? Pagos. Also where are these "many players" of yours that you refer to? I'm largely seeing more negative reception than positive. There are those that do seem to enjoy carpal tunnel inducing content like you but I see far more posts who don't seem to have the same feeling.

    If you want to be taken more seriously then stop calling people "ignorant" or saying they aren't allowed to pass judgement on content.
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  4. #14
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    I think gutting the efficiency of the NM train was a good move (I don't agree with relics being something you can get by spending 90% of your time AFK), but removing the crystal drops from normal enemies was not, especially with how steep the requirements are for upgrading the weapons are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Yeah and you know what's a lot like Anemos? Pagos. Also where are these "many players" of yours that you refer to? I'm largely seeing more negative reception than positive. There are those that do seem to enjoy carpal tunnel inducing content like you but I see far more posts who don't seem to have the same feeling.

    If you want to be taken more seriously then stop calling people "ignorant" or saying they aren't allowed to pass judgement on content.
    That's your opinion. Everytime I enter Eureka it's 144/144, with nobody complaining, that's enough to me to call it good content, and not trash as many players are saying eureka is.

    I will keep calling ignorant people ignorant, because she was. a "NO NO NO" answer is ignorant for me.

    I can't take any of you who is judging the content in the same week more seriously, even before completing it.

    I'm glad Pagos is like Anemos, because the "elemental thing" is what they will keep. There is a lot of different things.

    I'm going to be like you now. Do you know what's a lot like ARR relic? HW relic. It's the same hell farming tomes with content we already had. People say that we had variety of choice, but that's just a ilusion of choice, when we all know a spam of Bonus time A1S is the best way to farm light for HW relic, for example.

    At least with Eureka we are doing a brand new content, with different limitations and strategies. It's now far easier and thanks God to farm the weapons for all my Jobs. It's harder for the first, but easier for the other ones. I'd rather farm every Eureka Weapon for every Job than to do ARR or HW relic.
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    Last edited by LeoLupinos; 08-11-2018 at 06:59 PM.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    That's your opinion. Everytime I enter Eureka it's 144/144, with nobody complaining, that's enough to me to call it good content
    That is a horrible way to go about it. I've had many parties and I often see complaints of people not being able to stay awake. People are complaining, just not in shout chat. Unlike you I check many avenues of where people comment on Eureka. Party chat, forums, FC chat,, reddit, etc. I'm guessing it's also fun for you to lose exp if you die and don't get a raise?

    You said we can't judge anemos? Oh I'm sorry I guess being level 20 and having all Anemos weapons isn't good enough for you? I'm curious as to what makes Pagos so VASTLY different from Anemos that somehow makes it fun. Ah so you're complaining about the illusion of choice but yet you praise Eureka? You seem to love the aspect of standing around killing the same enemies over and over and over and over. I'm sorry but at least with the previous relic weapons you could change how you went about it, doesn't matter if it's all a means to the same end. Eureka it's just NMs or chain grinding. Where's daily content? Where's other quests? Where's literally anything else than brainless grinding until your hands hurt?

    "Brand New Content?"

    There's little brand new content. Spinning a wheel with a slow recharge timer is not innovative.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    You said we can't judge anemos?
    I said "I can't take any of you who is judging the content in the same week more seriously, even before completing it". A smart people would say I'm trying to reffer to Pagos, as it is the content released in the week that the judgements are coming from. I feel like I'm in need to show you a drawing.

    I'm Lv 28 now and enjoying. I'm fought many different monsters, I didn't kill the same monster for more than 90 times, and I'm 28. I did not lose any XP for dying, because I'm smart, I know that there's a thing called "CHAT", and I use it to communicate with players, and they can help me to get ressed up in the 10 minutes count Down. Or because I go exploring with a full party, and not alone. But if you do lost xp for exploring alone, well, that's just natural selection.

    If you can look at anemos and at pagos and even say that there's little brand new content, then I'm sure you need some glasses. And it will not be me or anyone that will change your opinion if the real problem is you. Theres a huge difference between "I didn't like the content" and "The content is trash".

    I just know that at the end I will be seeing all the whine with my new Relic weapon glamour. Enjoy your grind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    I said "I can't take any of you who is judging the content in the same week more seriously, even before completing it". A smart people would say I'm trying to reffer to Pagos, as it is the content released in the week that the judgements are coming from. I feel like I'm in need to show you a drawing.

    I'm Lv 28 now and enjoying. I'm fought many different monsters, I didn't kill the same monster for more than 90 times, and I'm 28. I did not lose any XP for dying, because I'm smart, I know that there's a thing called "CHAT", and I use it to communicate with players, and they can help me to get ressed up in the 10 minutes count Down. Or because I go exploring with a full party, and not alone. But if you do lost xp for exploring alone, well, that's just natural selection.

    If you can look at anemos and at pagos and even say that there's little brand new content, then I'm sure you need some glasses. And it will not be me or anyone that will change your opinion it the real problem is you. Theres a huge difference between "I didn't like the content" and "The content is trash".

    I just know that at the end I will be seeing all the whine with my new Relic weapon glamour. Enjoy your grind.
    Yeah and I haven't lost any exp either. Does that make Eureka good? You "do" realize Anemos and Pagos are similar enough to make a comparison right? Me mentioning one does not magically undo the point that was made, a point that Pagos does little more than double down on some of the worst aspects of Anemos. Go ahead and continue being sarcastic.

    Chat? Oh boy, chat! That thing that people often use when they die and it's been documented on both this forum and reddit where people are being ridiculed about asking for a raise or being left dead because others won't risk their hides to be a good Samaritan. You must be oblivious to the group of people that insulted and mocked people at an instance that wiped at "the holy cow" or whatever that NM is called. It was a pretty large chunk of that instance and all they had to do was raise people but they did not. Chat doesn't seem to matter much then now does it?

    You... oh screw it. This is an elaborate bait. "You" can enjoy "your" grind. I'm done. I'm not interested in continuing this debate with someone who disregards the opinions of others so vehemently.
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    Last edited by Mesarthim; 08-11-2018 at 07:40 PM.

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    My main problem with Pagos is how narrow the band is to party up and get viable amounts of exp. I started 4 days after launch and I’ve got near 0 chance of getting a party inside the instance already. That’s not a good sign of things to come imo
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    id like a way to convnert Pazuzu feathers into 2-5 Anemos crystals thats really a big change id like for Anemos

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    My main problem with Pagos is how narrow the band is to party up and get viable amounts of exp. I started 4 days after launch and I’ve got near 0 chance of getting a party inside the instance already. That’s not a good sign of things to come imo
    yeah starting off is more of a struggle in pagos i only entered it seriously today since i was farming for rathalos mount and it was hard to get a low level party ready
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