Rathalos EX

[Miste]

The casual mode is done the first time you do it, and it took all of one hour to get what i wanted from it. At least the Yokai watch was longer term than that. The only thing left is an ex trial which relies heavily on how good yourself and other people are. Yes, its easier than 8man ex trials, but to compensate we have the three cart rule, which quickly sucks fun out of it since its shared among the party.

I'm going to do it a few more times ot clear it, keep the one scale as a memento, then ignore it the same i ignore any ex trial after i clear it. The mount doesn't matter to me, i have 30+ mounts just from playing. I just don't like farming content like ex trials and i think a crossover event that involves that sucks.

So your REAL complaint is lack of content for yourself.

Why not just say that instead of making up that nonsense about "punishing casuals" just because the EX version exists?

If you don't like and/or don't do all content available then there will be shortages sometimes. It's just how it is if you don't branch out to everything the game offers or if you don't like farming or grinding. Which I don't blame you if you don't like farming or grinding a lot, some people just don't.

[RiyahArp]

So your REAL complaint is lack of content for yourself.

there wouldn't be a lack of content if they didn't make it an ex trial. By making it ex, they cut off a lot of the playerbase, because a lot of the playerbase simply doesn't like to farm hard content. It doesn't add longevity in the same sense yokai watch and garo did.The hardcore will farm the 50 scales in 1-3 days, and then they have nothing either. The only longevity will be from any casuals who attempt it, and its mostly suffering because its not really fun. They might as well have made it the third ultimate instead for all the good it does.

[Miste]

there wouldn't be a lack of content if they didn't make it an ex trial. By making it ex, they cut off a lot of the playerbase, because a lot of the playerbase simply doesn't like to farm hard content. It doesn't add longevity in the same sense yokai watch and garo did.The hardcore will farm the 50 scales in 1-3 days, and then they have nothing either. The only longevity will be from any casuals who attempt it, and its mostly suffering because its not really fun.

The game does not and will not only cater to you or one single subset of the player base, so you might as well give up on that mindset.

They want to have the game have content for casual and some for hardcore players to keep both types playing. So the normal mode exists for one type and the EX version exists for the other type, it seems fair to me?

I mean what if I demanded that all content be hardcore content like savage and ultimate, you would definitely take issue with that because it is catering everything to only what I want and only to the hardcore players, right? Think about it.

Yet, I don't demand for such a thing because I know that more casual players enjoy the easier content in the game and I want everyone to have something they can do in FFXIV if possible because it keeps the game diverse and active with many different types of players.

[Vaer]

there wouldn't be a lack of content if they didn't make it an ex trial. By making it ex, they cut off a lot of the playerbase, because a lot of the playerbase simply doesn't like to farm hard content. It doesn't add longevity in the same sense yokai watch and garo did.The hardcore will farm the 50 scales in 1-3 days, and then they have nothing either. The only longevity will be from any casuals who attempt it, and its mostly suffering because its not really fun. They might as well have made it the third ultimate instead for all the good it does.

MMO content isn't going to have longevity if you don't like farm content. Might as well quit while you are ahead. It takes them 3 months of work to produce a patch that most people will finish in a week (sometimes a day or two if you play a lot) if you don't want to farm it and ignore extra difficulties.

[SargentToughie]

there wouldn't be a lack of content if they didn't make it an ex trial. By making it ex, they cut off a lot of the playerbase, because a lot of the playerbase simply doesn't like to farm hard content. It doesn't add longevity in the same sense yokai watch and garo did.The hardcore will farm the 50 scales in 1-3 days, and then they have nothing either. The only longevity will be from any casuals who attempt it, and its mostly suffering because its not really fun. They might as well have made it the third ultimate instead for all the good it does.

Why are these complaints only being raised now?

EX trials have been like this since the re-launch of the game.

[Vaer]

Why are these complaints only being raised now?

EX trials have been like this since the re-launch of the game.

Maybe bitter that we keep losing dungeons so they scapegoat Ultimate/Eureka and now this because it seems like it is extra.

[RiyahArp]

Why are these complaints only being raised now?

EX trials have been like this since the re-launch of the game.

ex trials accompany other content usually, and special events tend not to have decent difficulty. It's not a case where out of two content items released in a patch, one is an ex trial. I guess I wouldn't mind as much if I wasn't more or less looking at eureka as the only long term content, whether i did the ex trial or not.

[SargentToughie]

Maybe bitter that we keep losing dungeons so they scapegoat Ultimate/Eureka and now this because it seems like it is extra.

ex trials accompany other content usually, and special events tend not to have decent difficulty. It's not a case where out of two content items released in a patch, one is an ex trial. I guess I wouldn't mind as much if I wasn't more or less looking at eureka as the only long term content, whether i did the ex trial or not.

This sounds to me like the playerbase got their expectations way too high for a single trial. It was never going to be able to boey as many gameplay hours as you're quoting through Yokai and Garo. We knew that as soon as they explained exactly what the crossover was: as an instanced trial with 2 difficulty modes.

On that note: did anybody actually enjoy Yokai? At least with Rathalos we've got a novel trial with unique mechanics that we'll be able to revisit and enjoy until the servers go down. Would you have legitimately preferred FATE grinding yourself into the floor for 3 months as an event over what we have?

[Rowde]

there wouldn't be a lack of content if they didn't make it an ex trial. By making it ex, they cut off a lot of the playerbase, because a lot of the playerbase simply doesn't like to farm hard content. It doesn't add longevity in the same sense yokai watch and garo did.The hardcore will farm the 50 scales in 1-3 days, and then they have nothing either. The only longevity will be from any casuals who attempt it, and its mostly suffering because its not really fun. They might as well have made it the third ultimate instead for all the good it does.

I'm sorry what? Yokai and Garo are your examples of content with longevity?!

Yokai was a seasonal event, now no longer available. It has no longevity. Regardless, looking back at my achievement list. I got my first Yokai Achievement on 7/26/2016 and I got the Whisper A-go-go Key Achievement on 7/28/2016. Three days is longevity?

My Garo Achievements for the gear are spread between 1/26/2017 and 2/02/2017. I received silver horse on 1/27/2017 and black horse on 1/31/2017. There is a large gap before I received the gold horse because I had never done Feast before and was initially hesitant to do it. However, my achievement for my very first Feast match was 4/04/2017 and I got the gold horse on 4/05/2017.

So technically... 9 total days spent specifically going after Garo gear ("spread out" over a 2 month period).


I also do not consider myself hardcore at all. I have always described myself as a casual gamer.

I don't think the heave can crit. At least, I haven't seen it on any of my runs.

That said, Heave still huuuuuuuuurts like a mother. Shield Oath, Shelltron, Sentinel, and that thing still chunks out half my dang HP. It's insane.

Not unrealistic at all that if a tank wasn't topped off and didn't CD properly, that they just got blasted by it.

This seems the most plausible to me, particularly if it was a DRK or PLD w/o tank stance to push DPS. That being said, HG, LD, and Holm are great for Garula. Holm and LD especially since you can pop a mega-pot near the end of timer and be completely safe. If it isn't dead by then the check most likely isn't getting passed...

[Bourne_Endeavor]

there wouldn't be a lack of content if they didn't make it an ex trial. By making it ex, they cut off a lot of the playerbase, because a lot of the playerbase simply doesn't like to farm hard content. It doesn't add longevity in the same sense yokai watch and garo did.The hardcore will farm the 50 scales in 1-3 days, and then they have nothing either. The only longevity will be from any casuals who attempt it, and its mostly suffering because its not really fun. They might as well have made it the third ultimate instead for all the good it does.

You mean the same Yokai event that was so universally despised, more people at the Faustlet minion than the Whisper-A-Go-Go mount? Yes, more people cleared Brute Justice Savage than grinded out FATEs. Meanwhile, Rathalos is considered a significant improvement on their past events.