SE pls end X\FC# per account & remove GrndFathered multiple houses owned by 1 person

[Wiccan026]

I did just learn how to do math in Ridorana, hmm....

If 1,000 players have an average of 4 houses each and SE takes those away, 1,000 people will #ragequit and 4,000 people will get new houses. Even if those numbers are off, there are going to be more available houses than angry players, else you wouldn't be multi-house owners.

I do believe that 4,000 happy players > 1,000 angry players. People have raised a stink over worse and it went nowhere. The fanfest fiasco enraged more players than own multiple houses and it was barely a blip on the radar.

And again. Throw me into the "bullying the poor multi-house owner bucket" all you want now, but you're really just continuing to dig a hole for yourself. I'm seeing a lot more "I didn't care until this happened and now I think you're terrible" comments then "uwu poor babies".

Keep it up, more fuel for the fire.

Actually your math is off but it's okay you're using Lighthouse logic where things are simple :P.

The problem is your math is straightforward but more variables actually exist than the math you outline. Each world has more than one person who owns multiple houses (this is more than a guess than a known fact but it wouldn't surprise me) and the majority of worlds (I think every world but four) still has a lot of available houses (most at the bottom of the barrel pricing and auto demolitions have still been happening).... your math doesn't take any of that into account.

The other problem is the fact that the problem itself can't be whittled down to a simple math problem because there would be far reaching consequences if they did what is outlined in the OP... bad press is never good... especially given the fact that the issues have always been based off SE's decisions (with all the stuff they have done to Grand Companies, why don't they just add a workshop in there, why don't they make apartments larger and have a balcony/patio to have a garden?).

I do think were getting sick of these threads (but it has broken up the monotony of people wailing at the cash shop)

[Wiccan026]

I love how everyone still fails to see that some the Temporary Changes to Purchasing Land listed haven't been effective for months.

Are you implying those rules aren't in effect anymore?

I don't recall Square Enix or anyone on the team saying those rules weren't in effect any longer.

[MaybeOliverB]

Are you implying those rules aren't in effect anymore?

I don't recall Square Enix or anyone on the team saying those rules weren't in effect any longer.

The 1 FC house per account rule stopped being enforced two weeks after 4.2.

[ManuelBravo]

Are you implying those rules aren't in effect anymore?

I don't recall Square Enix or anyone on the team saying those rules weren't in effect any longer.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...fcd07c69eba642 Under housing -.-/

Currently only thing by passing this is grandfather houses.

[MaybeOliverB]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...fcd07c69eba642 Under housing -.-/

Once again, temporary changes.

[ManuelBravo]

Once again, temporary changes.

So where was the announcement on your end? tried looking saw nothing contradicting. -.-/

[MaybeOliverB]

There's none. I could (everyone can) just keep buying FC houses again when they allowed personal plots to be purchased after the two weeks restriction.

[Claviusnex]

It won't be a PR disaster to do so, gameplay and requirements may change over time, it say so in the ToS, as mentioned before could add in so you need 10 subs to have FC alts not included, can of course add an alt to another FC if want to be in 2 FC's or more, but would not count as a sub as already supporting an FC with first character in one, stop giving a few people special rights that no one else can obtain with open resources, as for own server Zodiark, plenty of housing to be found still in the gobles, the mist, even a shirogane house here and there and lavender beds too.

But it is a limited resource and people having more than one spreading it out on alts is simply not cool, and worse some of those said openly brag about it and being rude towards people in general on the wards they own and on the forum.

Not a fan on just adding more wards, as it would lead to empty wards with just 1 or 2 houses in it as it is, and would make the areas barren or even lesser populated as it is, if anything free up housing with current ways and say that new rules has to be followed.

There are around 4.3K houses on each server if my memory is correct. For any of the large servers this mean there is only enough housing for 20% - 25% of of the players. The number of houses freed up would be minimal and do nothing to relieve the housing demand n or improve ones chance at obtaining one. There is nothing that can be done to work around the current system flaws other than adding enough wards for every player that wants a house to have a house. With SE's current implementation blindly adding wards to meet the large server demand means there will be wasted server resources on the smaller and mid-sized servers. The only way to truly get housing fixed is to quit blaming other players as the reason a person cannot get a house and demand that SE come up with a system that can scale to meet the housing demand. There are multiple ways to handle this on SE's part. They could create a new parallel fully instanced housing system that provides a complete inside and outside. They could also update the apartments to have multiple sizes and find a way for them to also have full access to gardening. What they can't do is keep sweeping the problem under the rug because they would have to admit they blew it when it came to housing.

easiest way : review the ToS so ppl who had more than 2 houses(fc and personal) in a server per account is violating ToS.

*ps : sorry for bad english

Not allowing multiple house owners to continue to own their their houses won't change the odds of anyone else being able to buy a house. The problem is with the whole housing system not the players. With the way SE currently implements housing there will never be enough houses for the large servers without have wasted resources on the small and mid-sized servers. The other players aren't at fault for you or others not being able to buy a house. The only entity at fault is SE for providing a poorly designed housing system and refusing to fix the design.

I did just learn how to do math in Ridorana, hmm....

If 1,000 players have an average of 4 houses each and SE takes those away, 1,000 people will #ragequit and 4,000 people will get new houses. Even if those numbers are off, there are going to be more available houses than angry players, else you wouldn't be multi-house owners.

I do believe that 4,000 happy players > 1,000 angry players. People have raised a stink over worse and it went nowhere. The fanfest fiasco enraged more players than own multiple houses and it was barely a blip on the radar.

And again. Throw me into the "bullying the poor multi-house owner bucket" all you want now, but you're really just continuing to dig a hole for yourself. I'm seeing a lot more "I didn't care until this happened and now I think you're terrible" comments then "uwu poor babies".

Keep it up, more fuel for the fire.

There are only something like 4.3K houses per server so it wouldn't really improve the player to house ratio on each server. Not to mention there aren't that many multiple house owners out there by comparison to single owner or single/FC owners. I also think they are hurting their own cause by bringing up other threads or bragging in the case of the multiple personality player with all of the FC's. But to repeat myself, I'm an old fart so am allowed to, the problem is squarely in SE's area of responsibility. As long as players blame other players it allows them to band-aid and ignore the design problem.

[InkstainedGwyn]

Actually your math is off but it's okay you're using Lighthouse logic where things are simple :P.

To be fair, there's a reason I work in a field that doesn't use numbers in any sort of computational format

That being said, none of my "math" had anything to do with trying to alleviate the housing supply and demand. That's a completely separate issue in my mind, and one that it's pretty clear SE has no plans on fixing. Is that bad? Probably, but again, not where my "math" came from.

My math came from the viewpoint that pissing off a small number of players < making other players happy and is in no way the "PR Nightmare" it's being painted as. Especially considering the fact that most of the people advertising their multiple houses have larges, mediums, and coveted locations, which will make people much happier than yet another Goblet #22.

I'm 100% being petty, but eh... I feel like it fits in with these threads.

[Wiccan026]

To be fair, there's a reason I work in a field that doesn't use numbers in any sort of computational format

That being said, none of my "math" had anything to do with trying to alleviate the housing supply and demand. That's a completely separate issue in my mind, and one that it's pretty clear SE has no plans on fixing. Is that bad? Probably, but again, not where my "math" came from.

My math came from the viewpoint that pissing off a small number of players < making other players happy and is in no way the "PR Nightmare" it's being painted as. Especially considering the fact that most of the people advertising their multiple houses have larges, mediums, and coveted locations, which will make people much happier than yet another Goblet #22.

I'm 100% being petty, but eh... I feel like it fits in with these threads.

If I could send you a pm via responding to a regular reply I would, but to my knowledge you can't do that on these forums.

I get the pettiness, I don't like it (but to be fair I doubt anyone can say they haven't been petty about something at some time in their lives) but I can understand where it comes from, I also don't think these multiple threads are helping (probably making it worse in my opinion).

Even if you take the math out of the equation (pardon the pun) at the end of the day it still won't be enough and you'll actually be upsetting two sides... those who lost houses and those who still did not get them. There is also know way of knowing how many houses will actually be produced in order to figure out which side will have more (If I was going to argue the odds it would be the unhappy side, only because there are servers that still have tons of options open and folks refuse to buy them still)

One last final thought to add to this topic as a whole. In my experience the forums is not an actual designation of the opinions of the folks who play this game (perhaps the Japanese forums than the NA/EU forums) and that's across multiple games not just this one. I know of several people in game who don't want a house because they don't want to waste the time on it (and some of them get a little angry when resources are used to make or update those areas, they have problems in my book). One can also use the fact that their are houses still available that it's not just folks want housing, they want the housing they want in particular (most folks don't want to live in the Goblet on most worlds for some reason, hmmm the outside of it I could understand, the middle of it is quite pretty).