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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    It won't be a PR disaster to do so, gameplay and requirements may change over time, it say so in the ToS, as mentioned before could add in so you need 10 subs to have FC alts not included, can of course add an alt to another FC if want to be in 2 FC's or more, but would not count as a sub as already supporting an FC with first character in one, stop giving a few people special rights that no one else can obtain with open resources, as for own server Zodiark, plenty of housing to be found still in the gobles, the mist, even a shirogane house here and there and lavender beds too.

    But it is a limited resource and people having more than one spreading it out on alts is simply not cool, and worse some of those said openly brag about it and being rude towards people in general on the wards they own and on the forum.

    Not a fan on just adding more wards, as it would lead to empty wards with just 1 or 2 houses in it as it is, and would make the areas barren or even lesser populated as it is, if anything free up housing with current ways and say that new rules has to be followed.
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    Claviusnex's Avatar
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    It won't be a PR disaster to do so, gameplay and requirements may change over time, it say so in the ToS, as mentioned before could add in so you need 10 subs to have FC alts not included, can of course add an alt to another FC if want to be in 2 FC's or more, but would not count as a sub as already supporting an FC with first character in one, stop giving a few people special rights that no one else can obtain with open resources, as for own server Zodiark, plenty of housing to be found still in the gobles, the mist, even a shirogane house here and there and lavender beds too.

    But it is a limited resource and people having more than one spreading it out on alts is simply not cool, and worse some of those said openly brag about it and being rude towards people in general on the wards they own and on the forum.

    Not a fan on just adding more wards, as it would lead to empty wards with just 1 or 2 houses in it as it is, and would make the areas barren or even lesser populated as it is, if anything free up housing with current ways and say that new rules has to be followed.
    There are around 4.3K houses on each server if my memory is correct. For any of the large servers this mean there is only enough housing for 20% - 25% of of the players. The number of houses freed up would be minimal and do nothing to relieve the housing demand n or improve ones chance at obtaining one. There is nothing that can be done to work around the current system flaws other than adding enough wards for every player that wants a house to have a house. With SE's current implementation blindly adding wards to meet the large server demand means there will be wasted server resources on the smaller and mid-sized servers. The only way to truly get housing fixed is to quit blaming other players as the reason a person cannot get a house and demand that SE come up with a system that can scale to meet the housing demand. There are multiple ways to handle this on SE's part. They could create a new parallel fully instanced housing system that provides a complete inside and outside. They could also update the apartments to have multiple sizes and find a way for them to also have full access to gardening. What they can't do is keep sweeping the problem under the rug because they would have to admit they blew it when it came to housing.

    Quote Originally Posted by KuuroYuuki View Post
    easiest way : review the ToS so ppl who had more than 2 houses(fc and personal) in a server per account is violating ToS.

    *ps : sorry for bad english
    Not allowing multiple house owners to continue to own their their houses won't change the odds of anyone else being able to buy a house. The problem is with the whole housing system not the players. With the way SE currently implements housing there will never be enough houses for the large servers without have wasted resources on the small and mid-sized servers. The other players aren't at fault for you or others not being able to buy a house. The only entity at fault is SE for providing a poorly designed housing system and refusing to fix the design.

    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    I did just learn how to do math in Ridorana, hmm....

    If 1,000 players have an average of 4 houses each and SE takes those away, 1,000 people will #ragequit and 4,000 people will get new houses. Even if those numbers are off, there are going to be more available houses than angry players, else you wouldn't be multi-house owners.

    I do believe that 4,000 happy players > 1,000 angry players. People have raised a stink over worse and it went nowhere. The fanfest fiasco enraged more players than own multiple houses and it was barely a blip on the radar.

    And again. Throw me into the "bullying the poor multi-house owner bucket" all you want now, but you're really just continuing to dig a hole for yourself. I'm seeing a lot more "I didn't care until this happened and now I think you're terrible" comments then "uwu poor babies".

    Keep it up, more fuel for the fire.
    There are only something like 4.3K houses per server so it wouldn't really improve the player to house ratio on each server. Not to mention there aren't that many multiple house owners out there by comparison to single owner or single/FC owners. I also think they are hurting their own cause by bringing up other threads or bragging in the case of the multiple personality player with all of the FC's. But to repeat myself, I'm an old fart so am allowed to, the problem is squarely in SE's area of responsibility. As long as players blame other players it allows them to band-aid and ignore the design problem.
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