I feel it's time for more housing wards again

[Kittypryde]

It also say somewhere that gameplay and requirements and the likes may change over time, am near 10.000 hours in FFXIV, the things you say should give up or the likes is not a limited item like a housing plot in X ward X region... yes I think you should give them up, like it or not, rules 3 years ago is nothing compared to what it is today, all they gotta do is to make you sign a new ToS to change and then make it clear of the changes, don't want you punished or anyone, but reimbursed for your losses of course, but this does not mean you cannot have 20 accounts with one house each as it is, that is fairplay and your money paying for several subscriptions as it is, grandfathering, would say it is a bad move, SE reimbursing people for their losses would be better, I believe in fairplay in general as it is.

As it is I could care less if they do something about it or not, but they should, as in noted people keep on doing it with their alts one way or another

I vote for no more wards though before SE clean up the current mess.

Ahh okay, so you are totally 100% cool if SE wanted to take away your private large and donate it to an FC in need. Noted.
And you are totally cool with SE adjusting jobs and nerfs like I stated above retroactively? Noted.

Also, if SE did give me back my 300ish m Gil. What do I do with that Gil? Just....sit on it.... forever....so I can buy.... absolutely nothing. That silly mount? Got it. Glams? Got it. I've already bought 30+ houses for friends and family mates. (I've honestly lost count how much Gil I give away to others in need. About 30%) There's nothing else to buy except for housing.

[Wiccan026]

Big flaw with your comparison - you're comparing subscription prices to a ingame feature. Subscription prices being lower for grandfathered in people does not effect anyone else on Netflix. People being grandfathered in with 20 houses impacts other people who are also paying for the game. So your comparison is really flawed

You can argue that my comparison wasn't perfect but at the end of the day no one will ever find a perfect comparison.

I also dislike your idea that everyone is "entitled" to a house (I do think several housing only things should be put in grand companies and apartments, but that's another topic altogether) given the facts that currently exist.

Most servers still have several housing options still currently left (not counting auto demolitions that happen still, I know someone who got a medium in the mist the other day) because people refuse to buy the ones that exist (which means that folks are also going to get their houses cheaper than the ones who bought them before these rules).

You also realize most people who bought their houses before these rules (and have more than one) paid more than the house was worth right... because they probably paid the owner of the house and than bought the house itself.

[Valkyrie85]

You can argue that my comparison wasn't perfect but at the end of the day no one will ever find a perfect comparison.

I also dislike your idea that everyone is "entitled" to a house (I do think several housing only things should be put in grand companies and apartments, but that's another topic altogether) given the facts that currently exist.

Most servers still have several housing options still currently left (not counting auto demolitions that happen still, I know someone who got a medium in the mist the other day) because people refuse to buy the ones that exist (which means that folks are also going to get their houses cheaper than the ones who bought them before these rules).

You also realize most people who bought their houses before these rules (and have more than one) paid more than the house was worth right... because they probably paid the owner of the house and than bought the house itself.

Does not matter, when rules are changed everyone should abide by them. Then there is really no point of the changes. The grandfathered people were the reasons they had to make the rules, yet they didn't do anything about them at same time? then was the point of the rule change??

and they fact everyone pays a sub, yes everyone should be entitled to get a house in accordance to the rules. Which rules state people should not have 20 houses and 8 apartments. But for some odd reason they decided to give these people a pass...

[Valkyrie85]

Ahh okay, so you are totally 100% cool if SE wanted to take away your private large and donate it to an FC in need. Noted.
And you are totally cool with SE adjusting jobs and nerfs like I stated above retroactively? Noted.

Also, if SE did give me back my 300ish m Gil. What do I do with that Gil? Just....sit on it.... forever....so I can buy.... absolutely nothing. That silly mount? Got it. Glams? Got it. I've already bought 30+ houses for friends and family mates. (I've honestly lost count how much Gil I give away to others in need. About 30%) There's nothing else to buy except for housing.

There's a difference between owning a single large, and owning 5 larges 6 mediums and a bunch of smalls.....

[Wiccan026]

Does not matter, when rules are changed everyone should abide by them. Then there is really no point of the changes. The grandfathered people were the reasons they had to make the rules, yet they didn't do anything about them at same time? then was the point of the rule change??

and they fact everyone pays a sub, yes everyone should be entitled to get a house in accordance to the rules. Which rules state people should not have 20 houses and 8 apartments. But for some odd reason they decided to give these people a pass...

Again they take houses away from people (especially after already grandfathering them) they will lose customers plain and simple... they'll also get bad press something I'm sure they work very hard to avoid.

Everyone pays a sub, under your logic that means regardless of player capability they should be able to run savage and ultimates since they pay for the sub and get clears.

[Wiccan026]

There's a difference between owning a single large, and owning 5 larges 6 mediums and a bunch of smalls.....

Again it's mostly Mateus and Balmung that have housing problems, several other servers folks refuse to buy what is available (and so the houses have hit as low as they can go in game) because they don't like it and aren't just happy enough to own a house, it needs to be "the right house".

Also, as it was previously pointed out, even if they followed some folks suggestions Mateus and Balmung would still have housing issues while creating customer service issues, again not a smart business practice.

[Themarvin]

Ahh okay, so you are totally 100% cool if SE wanted to take away your private large and donate it to an FC in need. Noted.
And you are totally cool with SE adjusting jobs and nerfs like I stated above retroactively? Noted.

Also, if SE did give me back my 300ish m Gil. What do I do with that Gil? Just....sit on it.... forever....so I can buy.... absolutely nothing. That silly mount? Got it. Glams? Got it. I've already bought 30+ houses for friends and family mates. (I've honestly lost count how much Gil I give away to others in need. About 30%) There's nothing else to buy except for housing.

Maybe housing is not a problem on your server, but it is elsewhere, as for grandfathering this current system is not grandfathering it is worse as in like granting an unfair advantage to people who has 'exploited' the system, yes I know it is partly SE's fault and all and honestly not really a game breaking issue... if they gave me a discount for having played for a few years being a loyal sub to FF would like that I DO get a discount as paying for 3months at a time sometimes 6months... as for 300million... probably spendt like 100-200million just relocating own housing location quite a few times, so no idea where you are getting with the 300million thing it is easy to make gil in FF so should expect getting in loads if have worked for it.

Also would be more open to be able to own multiple apartments instead of houses on same character rather than actual housing plots, mostly because would make it easier on the SE side to just add in more apartment 'instances'

[Kittypryde]

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Anyone can own multiple apts. It's still one apt, one FC room, per character. So if you have deluxe account, and you rank up second lieutenant and lv 50 , each character can have an apt.

Edited because I can't cut and paste properly with this stupid phone. Lol

[Themarvin]

Anyone can own multiple apts. It's still one apt, one FC room, per character. So if you have deluxe account, and you rank up second lieutenant and lv 50 , each character can have an apt.

Stop editing the source you quote from, it makes it look like forgery if you cannot single it out in bold text or whatever, the entire Squadron LB thing that some raiders used in certain savage raids was not an exploit either? and yet some of those people paid for it with a perma ban! I said 'exploit' as in using the system. when you craft an item and sell it on the market you exploit legally by using legal tools at hand in a figure of speech, you just reply to this as you are maybe one of the few getting hit by all this as it is, the current system with grandfathering the way they do is simply not fair, and that is what it is all about all you can do is agree or disagree as there is no real argument about why should be allowed to be able to go at it like this as it is.

[Kittypryde]

There's a difference between owning a single large, and owning 5 larges 6 mediums and a bunch of smalls.....

Tell you what. If you create a character on Ultros, and get them to lv 50, and rank up gc, I will treat you to a small cottage. No BS. It would require you to put in effort though. But, I will give you 4m Gil to have a cottage of your very own. Hell... This lav beds med has been sitting for a day now.....maybe it'll devalue down to 8.5m and I'll treat you to that instead.

If you don't take up my offer, then I will assume that you just want to stay on your overcrowded server and /cry forever instead.