Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
I have no idea what video you're talking about, but if WoW isn't considered fast, then I don't know what MMORPG is. I've never played an MMORPG that generally required higher APM to be good at it, though many are comparable.
WoW is certainly fast-ish, considerably more so than FF14. However, there are some games that are much faster. Blade and Soul comes to mind instantly. Even Wildstar was a little faster than WoW (on the one class I played, can't speak for rest).

Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
I play with a controller mod on WoW, and honestly I don't think a controller would be what holds players back. Humorously, the player-made controller mod for WoW has some smarter design choices than XIV's (using L1 and L2 as toggles instead of L2 and R2; this frees up R2 and R1 to be used as actions. This is advantageous because all four shoulder buttons can be used without interfering at all with the player's ability to move their character or camera.) However, from my somewhat limited WoW experience, XIV isn't as movement intensive as WoW. Something about WoW just feels more...fluid, for lack of a better term, than XIV.
To anyone speculating that controllers are the weak link for faster combat that is absolute hogwash. Fighting games require considerably more APM than probably any MMO and are done on pads (controllers) very commonly these days (used to be mostly sticks, but it's evened out).