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    Fun fact: I once met someone in Britain whose surname was Ramsbottom.

    There are probably no shortage of names in real life that we'd find unusual, or even outright hilarious. The real fun, though, comes from exploring the origin of the name. I would say the same principle applies to Hellsguard names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf View Post
    There are probably no shortage of names in real life that we'd find unusual, or even outright hilarious. The real fun, though, comes from exploring the origin of the name. I would say the same principle applies to Hellsguard names.
    Hellsguard 'last names' aren't really surnames though - it's just one individual two-word name, and the second word gets used as a surname when they need to be referred to that way. In normal speech, they might be called by their full name or either half of it. (eg. Hoary Boulder is usually called "Hoary", but Curious Gorge is "Gorge".)

    Must be a bit odd for players who've used proper generated names though? I'd like it if they had an extra field in the character creator that let you input a nickname separate to your full forename/surname.


    And yes, some of the Hellguard names seem like very strange things for people to decide to call their children! Sea Wolves are similarly odd once you start looking at the translation guide here and working out their meanings, but at least you could explain that as people liking the sound of the name without necessarily knowing the meaning, or maybe naming them after someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    And yes, some of the Hellguard names seem like very strange things for people to decide to call their children! Sea Wolves are similarly odd once you start looking at the translation guide here and working out their meanings, but at least you could explain that as people liking the sound of the name without necessarily knowing the meaning, or maybe naming them after someone else.
    Exactly - Sea Wolf names work a bit more like our real names do, I'd say. Looking at the meaning of some of my friends names irl (or at my own), I'm scratching my head a little too... but at least that meaning is concealed and you havent named a newborn "Drunken Stag"... makes me all the more excited to see Roegadyn children though! And see if we'll indeed meet a 5 year old called "Wasted Beaver"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf View Post
    Fun fact: I once met someone in Britain whose surname was Ramsbottom.

    There are probably no shortage of names in real life that we'd find unusual, or even outright hilarious. The real fun, though, comes from exploring the origin of the name. I would say the same principle applies to Hellsguard names.
    In regards to that: Hellsguard dont really have surnames though, so every name is given to an indivual child at birth(?).
    Specially the assumed "at birth" part is whats bothering me here - looking at real life surnames, even at something hilarious like "Ramsbottom" is often easly explained by the job the original name-bearer had or the place they lived in or maybe some facial characteristic. The important part to notice though would be that you either would inherite the name (not the case with the Hellsguard names) or were given it at a certain part in your life. For example: The very common german surname "Müller" (=miller) would obviously be given to a miller. Someone having the surname "Ramsbottom" might have an ancestor who had a ram who liked to bump into peoples butts.

    However if you have a Roe called "Drunken Stag" and he named like that at birth there isnt much story to tell yet - that child is just born!
    But a lot of names kinda imply that there would be a story to tell to give your child a name with such a negative conotation. And thats what I'm asking about - do Roes just get their adult name at an adult age and maybe have a different one during childhood? Is the name not influecend by their own "personalty traits" but rather by their parents, aka does someone whos called "Drunken Stag" has a dad who likes to hunt and drink? Do Hellsguard completly overlook the meaning of the words they're using for their names? Or do they simply dont care - either about the meaning or about given their kids a name that would make life hell for them at a modern school thanks to bullies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    In regards to that: Hellsguard dont really have surnames though, so every name is given to an indivual child at birth(?).
    Hellsguard in their homes in the Farreach use the old Roegadyn tongue and have names that likely resemble Sea Wolves', including family names. When coming to greater Eorzea, many Hellsguard translate their forenames into the common Eorzean tongue, discarding their family names.

    Braeniberk Someonesyn -> Broken Mountain, son of Someone -> Broken Mountain.
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