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  1. #131
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Retard forum ate my post so here is the short version:

    I am talking about the persistent 500ms delay on EVERY PLAYER ACTION in this game. It is there no matter what you do and it is rooted in SE coding.
    You can try to defend it all you want but it is crap coding and overzealous server side verification that causes it. Not peoples machines or their internet connections.

    You want proof: start running before your cast is finished. Most of the time you can run @ 80% cast bar and the cast will go through. Why? Because it already has gone through server side before you started running. Same thing applies to moving in and out of void zones.
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  2. #132
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    While netcode is idd a problem, we are also comparing 2 very different games, in the sense that you need a whole different client to access other regions while with FFXIV you can and that will affect performances
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Retard forum ate my post so here is the short version:

    I am talking about the persistent 500ms delay on EVERY PLAYER ACTION in this game. It is there no matter what you do and it is rooted in SE coding.
    You can try to defend it all you want but it is crap coding and overzealous server side verification that causes it. Not peoples machines or their internet connections.

    You want proof: start running before your cast is finished. Most of the time you can run @ 80% cast bar and the cast will go through. Why? Because it already has gone through server side before you started running. Same thing applies to moving in and out of void zones.
    Thanks for spelling that out! The delay is one of those things that we all learn to deal with, and in my case, totally forget about. D; I was confused when people kept mentioning lag. Would be sweet if they could fix that, although then we'd all have to relearn how to deal with AoEs
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  4. #134
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    Why do people complain about the free market. Don't like it, don't purchase it.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    While netcode is idd a problem, we are also comparing 2 very different games, in the sense that you need a whole different client to access other regions while with FFXIV you can and that will affect performances
    No it won't.
    While you would have more latency when playing an a server that is across the great pond (ask Australian wow players) that would not introduce such a constant delay.
    Blizzards restriction is pretty arbitrary and has been questioned by the players many times.

    BTW: I do not need a different client to access and create a character on US servers. A simple line of code in a small file is enough to make it connect. I have done so and created demo freebie chars on US servers myself. Defaulting to a region is just a setting that has no menu entry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Thanks for spelling that out! The delay is one of those things that we all learn to deal with, and in my case, totally forget about. D; I was confused when people kept mentioning lag. Would be sweet if they could fix that, although then we'd all have to relearn how to deal with AoEs
    True, changing it now would definitely be confusing for a lot of people.
    In the long run it would be a net gain though because game mechanics would work more precisely and more predictably.
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    Last edited by Granyala; 08-02-2018 at 04:43 AM.

  6. #136
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Some people complain every time an optional item is added no matter how superfluous it is... do you really want S-E to make the slimmest possible profit margin so that they have nothing to fall back on when the company has a bad year and they go under and the game service ends? They aren't doing any shady stuff at all like the $99 loot boxes some games have. There's a small monthly fee for some app which offers a minor convenience. The app directly interacts with data on the game servers and will increase the number of requests on them, so they monetised it. Paying for things is just the reality of funding a large company with large operating costs and ballooning budgets. The most they've ever done to give an advantage to people who pay more is selling additional retainers, but you can just make alt characters if you want more storage / sales slots / ventures so the impact is minimal.
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  7. #137
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    I would argue that more retainers, definitely cross the line, since it not only boils down to more inventory space but also into more ventures per hour.

    That being said: it's a minor thing, as long as it stays that way I can ignore it.
    Well it might not be a nice thing, i agree on that, but it is just a nice to have thing because you don't need it really except you are a hoarder.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    No it won't.
    While you would have more latency when playing an a server that is across the great pond (ask Australian wow players) that would not introduce such a constant delay.
    Blizzards restriction is pretty arbitrary and has been questioned by the players many times.

    BTW: I do not need a different client to access and create a character on US servers. A simple line of code in a small file is enough to make it connect. I have done so and created demo freebie chars on US servers myself. Defaulting to a region is just a setting that has no menu entry.
    Tbh I'm following something that was said on the forum regarding how they created this game and why they went for this steup, sadly I forgot to pin the name of the guy who said that.
    Unless it was on reddit and it could be the guy who has pinned practically every quote done by the devs
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  9. #139
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    Radial Absent
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    If glamour is your true endgame, why bother with the ugly stuff in the mogstation? Just because you think you need that stuff doesn't mean i would have a weird definition of mandatory.
    Do you even know what subjective means? Or are you being purposely obtuse? Seems like it.

    But since you obviously didn't understand for what you are paying your sub, we don't even have to discuss anymore because it is a waste of time.
    If you don't want to discuss it then feel free to not waste anymore of your time in this thread?
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  10. #140
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    but you can just make alt characters if you want more storage / sales slots / ventures so the impact is minimal.
    Nope, mules are explicitly blocked, there is no way to move items from one character over to another.
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