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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    I am sure ill pass if a DPS is derping and mouthing off to a tank and healer? >.>
    I had most kicks pass, I wonder if you ever saw a rant about my kickings XD
    More often than not, the people I have actually tried to vote dismiss over actual harassment — not even bad play, but legitimate harassment and/or trolling — have never passed because they have queued in with others that enable them to stay. Also more often than not, any vote dismisses that have been initiated in dungeons are usually ignored because others aren’t paying attention to the things the person is doing (for example, a DPS doing just slightly more than simply auto-attacking), or because they don’t care to get rid of the problem. Kicking still doesn’t really solve anything, since the offender won’t know why they’re kicked unless people tell them anyways. And, perhaps it’s jaded of me, but I doubt they would even seriously consider the why or what they could do differently regardless, because people who don’t care about wasting 3 or 7 other people’s time aren’t going to care to improve their personal play either.

    Adding this here because posting limits are dumb:

    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    Now I am here, hoping others do the same, do not just let them walk over you and you simply "tolerate it" because it is easier and less work. You may of passed up someone, willing to accept advice, because of your bad experience to others, you could made a difference, to that player.
    Whether you’re intending to sound condescending or not, I’m just going to say that this comes off as such. I have no qualms about helping other people — I helped three people last night on my sprout alt that were new to some of the level 50 dungeons and weren’t sure why they died; I’ve even been posting to a person on here and offered them my Discord to help them with BRD since it is my main — but when I think people aren’t going to listen or call me names, I deem it not worth it at the end of the day. This is much the case when it comes to telling DPS to AOE large packs in dungeons: I’ve told so many people so many times to do this and they just don’t. So I don’t waste my breath anymore in most cases; I only speak up if others do, because any other time I’ve taken it upon myself to say something to someone who isn’t AOEing or who died to a mechanic multiple times, I get the typical “stop telling me how to play, elitist”/“you don’t pay my sub” comments. I’ve even gotten some from other party members saying “it doesn’t matter” so...that’s that.

    You can’t make people who don’t care want to care.

    I’m going to leave this conversation at that, because it’s not really going anywhere. You have your experiences, and I have mine. At the end of the day, your personal experiences are different from mine, which have shaped me into the player I am — one who stopped wearing a crown and helping others because they decided enough verbal abuse was enough. If people ask, sure, I’ll help. But I don’t speak up in duties of my own volition anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Corruption wins in FFXIV. You can preach your good from your heart, but all you will get in return on these forums is a snide, and short click baiting comment. They know they are doing harm, but don’t care, so the moment you post something like this, the people who don’t care rush to upvote said comment, and make sure the person regrets posting. Don’t think that when people inevitably move on that it’s over. Any time you make another thread, people will quote you, and remind you that they don’t like you, and what kind of a person they think you are. This is the mob mentality.
    Did you even read the thread?
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 07-30-2018 at 11:39 AM.
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