How do you deal with constant undercutting?

[CainCrimson]

I haven't been able to sell anything but materia and weapons over the last week. All my other items are just sitting there...some being undercut and some still the lowest price.

Makes me wonder if the game somehow blocks visibility of items until certain times, limiting how much/often you can sell.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

The market is in pretty terrible shape lately. But it will likely change when the new patch arrives.

[Shadygrove]

I haven't been able to sell anything but materia and weapons over the last week. All my other items are just sitting there...some being undercut and some still the lowest price.

Makes me wonder if the game somehow blocks visibility of items until certain times, limiting how much/often you can sell.

The game population is currently at a low point with the stutter subbers waiting for the next patch before re subbing. So the market is in a doldrum. Sales will pick up after the patch but will the older synths sell any better? I cannot say.

The market is in pretty terrible shape lately. But it will likely change when the new patch arrives.

[chidarake]

undercutting isnt going to go anywhere and your not forced to follow along with the undercutter, point of fact is you should just let it sell as not getting that one sale isnt a big deal unless someone keeps posting new items cheaper than yours everytime they sell one.

back in ARR gil was harder to get and people had less need to undercut so drastically so the market stayed for the most part more stable, nowadays gil is everywhere and even the poor have 20mil+ so people drop prices quickly for the quick sale. it creates a buyers market so to speak and is really great if your into collecting things like minions mounts songs and barding as it will bring prices down and remove any rng in actually getting those items from dungeons / raids as gil is much less rng based to get.

like recently i got a dodo mount for 10mil and no rng, 10mil is really easy to make back and if i get a drop from hoh when i can get back on to finish it ill relist and it will make the one i bought cheaper or free depending on its value at the time.

just be smart and dont worry if you dont sell everything within a hour. making gil is super easy nowadays and you will always have access to more when the time arises. heck even clusters still make gil as i recently sold a few stacks of 100 at 2k each, just gotta sometimes sit on things and eventually they sell.

and just incase your one of those who are into gil collecting then if thats the case you just got to play the undercutting game but then im sure your already prepared for that.

[CainCrimson]

undercutting isnt going to go anywhere and your not forced to follow along with the undercutter, point of fact is you should just let it sell as not getting that one sale isnt a big deal unless someone keeps posting new items cheaper than yours everytime they sell one.

back in ARR gil was harder to get and people had less need to undercut so drastically so the market stayed for the most part more stable, nowadays gil is everywhere and even the poor have 20mil+...

I've currently got $500,000, which by that standard would make me the lowest of the low lol....

[Driskus]

Sometimes it's an aggressive "get off my market" tactic. He wants you to see that if you undercut him, he'll drive the market into the ground, thus hoping you'll give it up in disgust as unprofitable and move to a different market.

I did that once, but as a counter to someone who was camping their retainers and undercutting me all day long within minutes, sometimes even seconds after I would post something. Our retainers were in different regions, so it was really unnecessary. Luckily, it was gear he was doing it on, so I looked at the signature on the tooltip. Did a little research on the MB and I noticed that same character was buying large amounts of the materials needed to craft said gear. I was gathering mine, so my cost was basically zero. I crashed the market to the point where it would be unprofitable for him to keep up, and within a day, the constant camping and undercuts stopped. I bought him out and jacked the price back up to normal and never had issues after that. He was still listing, but wasn't undercutting constantly anymore.

[Nixxe]

I was gathering mine, so my cost was basically zero.

Time is intrinsically valuable. Your cost is not zero just because you gathered it. You lost out on whatever gil you could have spent that time making.

[Shadygrove]

Time is intrinsically valuable. Your cost is not zero just because you gathered it. You lost out on whatever gil you could have spent that time making.

That's opportunity costs. I don't think Drikus cares about opportunity costs.

[Nixxe]

That's opportunity costs. I don't think Drikus cares about opportunity costs.

Whether he cares about them or not is immaterial.

[Caitlinzulu]

Whether he cares about them or not is immaterial.

Loss of potential profit is not the same as cost.