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    Player
    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 100
    I undercut them more. But only if they try undercutting me first (I usually post the exact price as the current top listing). But not more than what I can sell it to a Vendor for. Because that's just stupid. :/
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Once I saw someone kept undercutting me over and over and over within a few minutes.
    I eventually undercutted his item by a very large amount
    He undercutted me
    I bought his item and put both of them back on at the regular price and sold both of them.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    The aforementioned individual is still going strong and has drawn the ire of a rather large part of the crafting community on my server now.

    You can beat a human undercutter, but when you're dealing with a bot that's online 24/7 (Barring very rare exceptions) and does virtually nothing but undercut whenever someone tries to sell something at a price lower then them, it requires an unreasonable amount of diligence to get your stuff to sell.

    Baiting them into selling low then trying to resell at a higher price is also largely ineffective as they'll almost immediately relist a new item the moment one sells, meaning you can't avoid getting into a price war with them.

    I'm feeling like they need to just change the marketboard somehow to make it harder for bots to exploit, whether it be with constant undercutting or flooding the market with underpriced wares.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 05-30-2018 at 02:19 PM.

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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm feeling like they need to just change the marketboard somehow to make it harder for bots to exploit, whether it be with constant undercutting or flooding the market with underpriced wares.
    A cooldown on how often you can change the price of an item would help a lot, and possibly a limit on how many of a type of item you can sell at one time. There's no reason for any one person to be selling thousands upon thousands of something at once.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Generally play their game with -1 gil or place it on their asking price.

    On some item where i don't really care about my profit too much i play with them until the prices are so low and buy them out and relist.
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    Dingding Ding
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    Warrior Lv 80
    wait when the pay to sell mobile APP comes out, lol
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    Hralien Tuuserail
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I make a point of not buying from people who have less than a 10% price difference than other buyers, as I prefer to support those are who aren't just undercutting like this example just to put their wares at the top. So for example if I saw your wares at around 10% cheaper than the next cheapest I would buy those, even if someone had put their wares something like 1gil cheaper then yours.
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I usually update my price when I log on and when I log off
    (sometime once mid day if I play the whorl day on weekend)
    I however undercut by only 1~100g, there are enough people removing 10% of the price everytime they undercut making price go down by 50% in a week (price fluctuat do quick on Ragnarok....)
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    F'iorin Rhiri
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 90
    I always undercut very heavily because I want to sell my stuff, rather than sitting on it for days, or having to play these petty 1 gil MB fights, especially on markets that are slow. It's not just a game you're going to win.

    Although it's quite annoying how on some days, hunts become more profitable than a bunch of classes you leveled to 70.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Well, people did finally find a way to beat the annoying undercutting bot, but it basically just boiled down to figuring out what they decided to set as their price floor, then selling lower then that so they wouldn't undercut anymore.

    This is still ultimately allowing them to dictate what prices things are being sold at, but it's better then them hogging all the profits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiorinol View Post
    Although it's quite annoying how on some days, hunts become more profitable than a bunch of classes you leveled to 70.
    I usually make most of my money by selling materia, but in this dead period between raid tiers, it's worth so little that it almost doesn't feel worth selling it right now.
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