Remaster old raids/trials/whatever for fun new midcore content.

[DaulBan]

Something something mythic something WoW something whatever.

Look all I want is for them to do some scaling factor on old raids so that I can do them at current level cap and not be forced to dance the death of level sync in order to experience older content. I'd love to go back and do Midas for fun but if you gave me an option between doing A5S or A6S at level 60 and taking a bath with a toaster well the answer might shock you.

So instead of dragging every poor soul that says 'hey remember how goddamn terrifying Vortexer was?' down into the depression and sadness of playing an incomplete job just scale the fights up. It doesn't have to be clean or well tuned, I mean like... Midas fights have all their enemies with 5-6x multipliers and do 3x as much damage. Creator enemies have 4-5x as much health and do 2.5x more damage, or something in that order. It doesn't have to be fine tuned, just a better option than the toaster bath that is ilvl sync.

You don't even need to add new rewards because (most) of the Alex gear looks pretty sweet. Maybe throw a title in for clearing all the fights or something, I dunno.

I love the content in this game but as time goes on all of the old stuff becomes so old that just doing it is a pain. Yeah, sure, old fights might have mechanics that aren't as impressive now because of how much stronger jobs are but given the choice between power creep and never doing the fights in the first place I'll take the creep.

The scaling doesn't need to be that accurate and it only needs to get updated either once an even patch (if you want to keep difficulty the same across the expansion) or just at the beginning of the expac and add an ilvl sync. I don't like dropping from i370 to i310 more than anyone but it's not toaster level of displeasure, I would still do it.

tl;dr gimme old content scaled up so I can convince myself to do it and not have a terrible time.

Answers to some questions that may get asked:

Q. why not do it ilvl synced?
A. Doing any Coil fight with a level 50 job would give me measles.

Q. This would take too much away from current content development.
A. This might actually be true because we're a couple months out from the start of this patch and Pagos is so late in the term the game might as well be pushing out a toddler.

Q. I don't like raid content
A. I don't like you

Q. The above two questions are actually statements.
A. Ligma.

[Nezerius]

I'd rather have the devs work on new content, instead of attempting to tune old content to the current lvl, as syncing is already a thing.

[Rockette]

I'd rather have the devs work on new content, instead of attempting to tune old content to the current lvl, as syncing is already a thing.

Actually, as much as I hate level synching, and sincerely miss when Savage was actually savage, I have to agree with this post. The dev's have often cited lack of resources.

Other than that I think the idea is cool.

[Ilyrian]

Q. why not do it ilvl synced?
A. Doing any Coil fight with a level 50 job would give me measles.

But isn't that the point - the fights were designed around a certain job build at the time - if you go in with level 70 skills and talents it won't exactly be an authentic experience.

Just upping the boss HP won't stop certain mechanics being trivialized by more and stronger aoe healing, AST cards, raid-wide buffs added post-50 etc.

The devs would, in essence, have to rework the fights entirely to cater for the new skills and party formations which seems counter-productive when the original fight is still there, in tact.
Not saying they should or shouldn't do it - but i think it's a much bigger job than you're assuming. When they could just be adding new stuff catered for current job builds.

[Iscah]

I'd love to go back and do Midas for fun but if you gave me an option between doing A5S or A6S at level 60 and taking a bath with a toaster well the answer might shock you.

Given that particular set of options and your implied answer, it may not be us getting shocked...



But probably the easist way to achieve what you want is to run it unsynched with a smaller party than the intended eight-man team.

[Nixxe]

I don't think it would be fun and it definitely wouldn't be new except in a very superficial sense. I'm not paying a sub in the hopes that they rehash old content endlessly instead of giving me something new.

[DrWho2010]

newer stuff is always better than old stuff with some paint on it.

[BillyKaplan]

But isn't that the point - the fights were designed around a certain job build at the time - if you go in with level 70 skills and talents it won't exactly be an authentic experience.

A lot of the jobs at level 50 now aren't what they were when the content was released. Not saying this is an argument in favor of this, just that the original, intended experience has been lost to the ages.

[CainCrimson]

I often wish I could experience "old" content with my "new" abilities.

But I do understand why we don't have that option and what it would ultimately require and do to existing que times.

[Brightshadow]

I wouldn't mind seeing the classic primals brought back with more mechanics and perhaps a hardcore new phase where the stage/music gets intense that would be pretty cool, just imagine a new fight aganist shiva, ifrit, or ramuh *drool*

Or titan breaking his platform in half where you have to quickly brace for impact to hit his ground level where things get real crazy.