Letter to Mr. Yoshi

[ShadowHunterrX]

Your solution to bad players not improving is "just get friends and / or never use Duty Finder"? Why not actually give players (that could be unintentionally bad because they have nothing to measure their rotation on) a self-parser on-demand so they can work on themselves? All I get from your post is a vibe of you conforming bad players to stay bad and better players to suck it up

My solution for bad players.... I must say how some of you lovely people are living in there own little world.

No, it's not a solution for bad players. It's just using your brain which was giving you by birth. I shall give you a easy example. Sir Reinhardt is trying to kill Moon bunny extreme and he knows the fight very well, but his luck with so called clear/farm party's in PF is very bad. So Sir Reinhardt who isnt a BAD PLAYER ask his friends who killed it for help.

Ofcourse you get that from my post. You want parsers in the game and who isnt in the same thinking field is your enemy.

I am not really your enemy. But what most of you dont understand is the different mindsets people have in this game. You, me and most of us here wants to improve, right? So a ingame tool will be great extra. I am not conforming bad players to stay bad and better players suck it up. Some bad/good players just DONT CARE and only playing the game to have fun. They will ignore the extra tools and just move on.

I am not defending these people. Myself have many exp with leechers and that will never go away. Even with all the tools we already have in PF.

These threads are very very toxic. People who dont agree are heavenly belittled, putting words in your mounth or insulted and bad players are put on the same level on trash.

Mindset here : I wanna be the very best and take this game very very very serious. OMG, this run is 5 min longer ! What a trash party, blacklist.

Mindset most people: Finally home from work and time to play my favorite game with my friends. Hmm 5 min slower then last time.... o well we did great.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Mindset here : I wanna be the very best and take this game very very very serious. OMG, this run is 5 min longer ! What a trash party, blacklist.

Mindset most people: Finally home from work and time to play my favorite game with my friends. Hmm 5 min slower then last time.... o well we did great.

This is a meme casual and/or bad players perceive raiders to have. If this were in anyway accurate, why do you see the likes of Xeno, Bokchoy, Momo Sama, MrHappy and other top tier players all in PF for literally no reason except they're bored and like doing the content? You think Xeno is getting good kill times in a random pick-up? Speaking of myself, I've spent over an hour with a group far below my own skill level. Why? They were putting forth an effort. That's what most raiders are asking for: effort and consistency. None of us care if the run takes a little longer in a PF, provided people are at least trying. What does irk people is when someone repeatedly dies to the same mechanics or clearly has little idea how their job plays at a high level.

Regardless, your own example defeats your argument. "play my favourite game with my friends." You can be an Ice Mage for all I care when playing with your friends. Go nuts and have fun. When you're queuing with random people, especially in higher end game. How about showing a little courtesy and not wasting their time? Five minutes is no big deal; few raiders will care. They'll be a bit less forgiving if you're contributing less than half the DPS of everyone else despite having the same ilvl.

[RiyahArp]

This is a meme casual and/or bad players perceive raiders to have. If this were in anyway accurate, why do you see the likes of Xeno, Bokchoy, Momo Sama, MrHappy and other top tier players all in PF for literally no reason

Because they are streamers and need to stream play and maintain their image to get real life dollars.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Because they are streamers and need to stream play and maintain their image to get real life dollars.

Boychok and Momo aren't partnered. And they were mere examples. What about the other raiders, some sporting Ultimate weapons, who neither stream or have a well known name? The point is this perception some people try to paint raiders as simply doesn't exist.

[RiyahArp]

Boychok and Momo aren't partnered. And they were mere examples. What about the other raiders, some sporting Ultimate weapons, who neither stream or have a well known name? The point is this perception some people try to paint raiders as simply doesn't exist.

There aren't as many as you'd think. The ultimates are maybe what, 3k total players NA? 6k?

As for raiders, they don't really do much in my experience, in casual content. You really only notice the names on party finder or shouting to sell runs. The ones in my ex-FC do their own thing mostly. It's not like raiders really are noticeable in casual, I can usually tell how good dps is on average from how fast a boss dies, but the actual time spent stays pretty constant.

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The thing about parsers is that there will be no personal parsers. FFlogs existence shows that. People are kind of asking for it because they want to force other people to get better. It always goes to "make casual content harder." Paladinleeds had a bit of an extreme example, but people tend to want other people to use them to improve when they ask for it; most here that do already use them.