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    I still don't get this thread. There's a pretty big disconnect between 'not using your skills/using your skills incorrectly' and 'parsers'. Because people who want a high parse will naturally want to do everything correctly anyway. :/

    I kind of wonder if OP lost a bet/ran into someone that outright lied about what parsers actually do and asked them to start a crusade on the forums, because said someone had already been banned from here prior.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima View Post
    From my perspective, the WoW community isn't the problem, the FFXIV community has been worse to me than the WoW community has been in the decade plus I've had exposure to the game. I never had people be so ignorant and refuse to get better at the game like XIVers seem to insist that they should play how they wish. The dev team won't make a hardline stance on anything because they have no idea what to do and that's a problem. A dev team without ideals can accomplish nothing, we didn't get a new tank or healer because they wanted to adjust tank/healer balance and it didn't work.

    The FFXIV community is notoriously tolerant of FFXIV creating the same thing over and over, repeating the same mistakes, and ignoring problems that they themselves created without any input from the players to cause it like: Housing, Job balance, what have you. Our concerns are not "small" by any means, they're identical to those of other games, XIV players are just more tolerant and sometimes tolerance is a bad thing because it means that poor behavior isn't punished, it's instead rewarded.

    Even so, Kisai is a fool to compare parsing to packet data, but nobody is arguing that Kisai isn't talking out of the wrong end.
    I actually am in agreement with this. I haven't seen another community where people will actively defend someone intentionally playing in a way detrimental to the rest of the party. Of course, there does exist context where that is acceptable (early leveling dungeons and the player in question simply doesn't know), but by SB, you'd think people would have a clue.

    Hell, there's probably a pretty big disconnect between the JP and the EN communities on that matter too. The JP players probably just look at us and think we're all idiots, and probably think the developers design content the way they do because they think we keep dropping the ball in more ways than one. Our playerbase as a whole hasn't exactly proven that we're actually ready for the changes that we so desperately crave.

    (Also if you're reading this Hyo, I'd like to bring your attention back to the Bard thread in the DPS section and hear your two cents on what's there.)
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 07-21-2018 at 02:35 PM.
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