Letter to MR Yoshi: Why parses system is destroying the ffxiv world.

[KaivaC]

The irony is, Yoshi-P is clearly aware of the kinds of cheating going on, and hasn't cracked down on players doing it, which ends up giving the impression that nobody will ever be punished for ANY kind of automated play.

The very definition of cheating is "to violate rules or regulations"

Oh, come off it already. Automated play? You still have to be able to react to the information given to you. In the Titan phase specifically, you still have to line up the gaols, be able to force Titan to 'woke', survive all of it's overlapping mechanics, and everything. It would be a bit more understandable if you did it yourself, but you don't even do Ultimate. How about you gather 7 other players and do it yourself without the aforementioned tools that you hate so much? People who don't even do Ultimate shouldn't be opening their mouths and complaining about how certain pieces of content are affected if they don't do it in the first place.

edit: these blasted forum rules are keeping me from saying what I want, but with this edit, hopefully you get the picture. This constant attacking on tools you really don't have an understanding off and on the raiding community makes it hard to stay cordial. I'd wonder how you'd react if this same kind of vitriol was directed on a weekly basis, in almost every other related thread, against the casual player base.

[SargentToughie]

Oh, come off it already. Automated play? You still have to be able to react to the information given to you. In the Titan phase specifically, you still have to line up the gaols, be able to force Titan to 'woke', survive all of it's overlapping mechanics, and everything. It would be a bit more understandable if you did it yourself, but you don't even do Ultimate. How about you gather 7 other players and do it yourself without the aforementioned tools that you hate so much? People who don't even do Ultimate shouldn't be opening their mouths and complaining about how certain pieces of content are affected if they don't do it in the first place.

edit: these blasted forum rules are keeping me from saying what I want, but with this edit, hopefully you get the picture. This constant attacking on tools you really don't have an understanding off and on the raiding community makes it hard to stay cordial. I'd wonder how you'd react if this same kind of vitriol was directed on a weekly basis, in almost every other related thread, against the casual player base.

Adding on to this: Do it without callouts. Or parsing your party. Or the preset rotations that came from job guides. Or guides for the fight itself.

Or really, any of that stuff that was created by the TOXIC ELITISTS that are killing the game.

[Ultima]

Refer to this
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._bad_news_for/


As much as I'd love to see Yoshi-P deliberately break all the tools, It would take elliptic-curve cryptography to prevent the FFXIV ACT Plugin from being able to record that data in the first place (as opposed to the fixed key to access the lobby). Yet it's likely they'd just use an off-the-shelf crypto, which would just add more latency and increase the minimum CPU requirements. The only reason it works at all is because the existing plugin only needs to use zlib, and not for very much.

The irony is, Yoshi-P is clearly aware of the kinds of cheating going on, and hasn't cracked down on players doing it, which ends up giving the impression that nobody will ever be punished for ANY kind of automated play.

The very definition of cheating is "to violate rules or regulations"

If Yoshida is fully aware of these 3rd-party tools and isn't doing anything to punish the users then clearly he doesn't care, so why do you care if Yoshi-P doesn't care?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

If Yoshida is fully aware of these 3rd-party tools and isn't doing anything to punish the users then clearly he doesn't care, so why do you care if Yoshi-P doesn't care?

The irony is she's still comically conflating parsing with triggers. Not to mention, that specific trigger only works because the devs coded two sets of gaols (Titan and Garuda). Had they not done that, they'd be entirely useless. So Yoshida's "crack down" is likely correcting that mistake in future content.

[DreamAngel-Ren]

but parsing is against TOS. LOL, you're asking SE to break their own rules.

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT! XDDD

[Vstarstruck]

Probably no one pointed it out because it didn’t need to be pointed out—his post was 200% talking out of his behind. My eyes glazed over reading that nonsense.

I get that, I wanted to see his counter to that point out though, shame he will likely never respond though

[JohnSeal]

Sry if someone doesn't like my way to type... I do my best .

To reply to MS HYO: many ppl offended me! mine was a post to suggest a change in the community but most of you are full of hathred !

to reply to the BIS concept I will rephrase it: Different people got different goals in game, for me the BIS is not one and you ppl are nobody to judge other priorites! My goal is to gear up to the maximum level as more classes as I can BIS or not.... I do raid with my healers because I love healing and I am good at it, if I get a piece I am really happy and I don't care if is BIS or not I am happy to use it and I can heal in savage content with or without. BIS I saw for SCH gives you 2500 crit, 142ish piety and 124ish DET and I PERSONALLY DONT LIKE IT! I don't need so much Piety and I prefer to have more DET. You can have the full BIS and not be good or not have it and do great is the player that matter.

The concept of Logs and BIS bother me and it took from me all the fun from playing DPS, What you top dps do? just blindly follow SOMEONE ELSE ROTATION and do pew pew pew! wow what an achievement do like puppets what other told you to do.
FYI elitist player don't need someone to tell you how to play but the create and optimize their own rotation with their skills.

Still guy you are outside of topic, the point still is why discriminate ppl if they dont have purple/orange logs on PF? if the damage is SUFFICIENT everybody can play, develop new classes without you judging them!!! if you hit the grey line you dont damage anyone is a matter of fact but toxic ppl do for entires parties!!



Anyway even if many of you don’t agree with me some other ppl do !! if you see online on any forum about ffxiv there are many ppl defining parses and LOGs as CANCERS so I am not alone guys!!

Anyway I asked a question few times but nobody got attributes enough to reply to that: If you have orange logs do you think to be a better player than ppl who don’t? if the answer is yes means you are DISCRIMINATING!
Nobody will reply because you know that by replying: Yes I am better! you would give me automatically right.
Still I think logs can classify DPSs by their results but not healers or tanks lol

And if I said someone got the brain of a cow, I didn’t do names and I won’t so why you feel offended if you are not a cow ?!

[Ultima]

Sry if someone doesn't like my way to type... I do my best .

To reply to MS HYO: many ppl offended me! mine was a post to suggest a change in the community but most of you are full of hathred !

to reply to the BIS concept I will rephrase it: Different people got different goals in game, for me the BIS is not one and you ppl are nobody to judge other priorites! My goal is to gear up to the maximum level as more classes as I can BIS or not.... I do raid with my healers because I love healing and I am good at it, if I get a piece I am really happy and I don't care if is BIS or not I am happy to use it and I can heal in savage content with or without. BIS I saw for SCH gives you 2500 crit, 142ish piety and 124ish DET and I PERSONALLY DONT LIKE IT! I don't need so much Piety and I prefer to have more DET. You can have the full BIS and not be good or not have it and do great is the player that matter.

The concept of Logs and BIS bother me and it took from me all the fun from playing DPS, What you top dps do? just blindly follow SOMEONE ELSE ROTATION and do pew pew pew! wow what an achievement do like puppets what other told you to do.
FYI elitist player don't need someone to tell you how to play but the create and optimize their own rotation with their skills.

Still guy you are outside of topic, the point still is why discriminate ppl if they dont have purple/orange logs on PF? if the damage is SUFFICIENT everybody can play, develop new classes without you judging them!!! if you hit the grey line you dont damage anyone is a matter of fact but toxic ppl do for entires parties!!



Anyway even if many of you don’t agree with me some other ppl do !! if you see online on any forum about ffxiv there are many ppl defining parses and LOGs as CANCERS so I am not alone guys!!

Anyway I asked a question few times but nobody got attributes enough to reply to that: If you have orange logs do you think to be a better player than ppl who don’t? if the answer is yes means you are DISCRIMINATING!
Nobody will reply because you know that by replying: Yes I am better! you would give me automatically right.
Still I think logs can classify DPSs by their results but not healers or tanks lol

And if I said someone got the brain of a cow, I didn’t do names and I won’t so why you feel offended if you are not a cow ?!

Nothing you just said could be classified as a complete and coherent thought, go back and learn how to express your thoughts like a grown adult.

[SaitoHikari]

I am not too sure about another healer main giving their two cents on something that is primarily the only consistent measurable form of accountability for DPS classes either.

Refer to this
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._bad_news_for/


As much as I'd love to see Yoshi-P deliberately break all the tools, It would take elliptic-curve cryptography to prevent the FFXIV ACT Plugin from being able to record that data in the first place (as opposed to the fixed key to access the lobby). Yet it's likely they'd just use an off-the-shelf crypto, which would just add more latency and increase the minimum CPU requirements. The only reason it works at all is because the existing plugin only needs to use zlib, and not for very much.

The irony is, Yoshi-P is clearly aware of the kinds of cheating going on, and hasn't cracked down on players doing it, which ends up giving the impression that nobody will ever be punished for ANY kind of automated play.

The very definition of cheating is "to violate rules or regulations"

Oh. I had forgotten about that. Although that was probably because this still isn't directly related to parsing at all, other than using the same tool to do that.

Even so, I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone that will actually argue that this isn't actual cheating. Parsing at the end of the day is still just reading numbers, it doesn't give any outside assistance on how to actually solve mechanics like the above.

[Ultima]

I am not too sure about another healer main giving their two cents on something that is primarily the only actual form of accountability for DPS classes either.



Oh. I had forgotten about that. Although that was probably because this still isn't directly related to parsing at all, other than using the same tool to do that.

Even so, I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone that will actually argue that this isn't actual cheating. Parsing at the end of the day is still just reading numbers, it doesn't give any outside assistance on how to actually solve mechanics like the above.

WoW has DBM that informs you of upcoming mechanics in X seconds and the like, so you can't call that cheating because Blizzard developed around there being such addons instead of banning or breaking them.