Letter to MR Yoshi: Why parses system is destroying the ffxiv world.

[Ilan]

Something tells me that dps was not something like a drg. You are not going to keep agro with a i310 wep if a drg has i360 unless they are super nice and use diversion, elusive jump, or have a ninja tossing band aids on the situation. I can very easily pull hate off tanks in dps stance. Do it all the damn time. And I can do it with tanks that can and do savage content so it is not about skill.

Oh it is most of the time about skill because most dps players don't use skills like diversion and because a lot of tanks don't pay enough attention. But i agree that holding hate with ilvl 310 vs a 360+ dps is not possible in dps stance except the dps player deals no damage.

[Tiaque]

It's their 15 dollars, but for the other three players, it's their combined 45 dollars that is being wasted. I guess that makes me an "elitist" because I want people to know how to press Flash or use 1-2-3 to hold threat in tank stance as a baseline of their braindead easy role.

That said, Healer isn't any harder - there's nothing to do, so you DPS because there's too much downtime.

Playing a DPS is the hardest role because the only way to prove your value is being repeatedly attacked in threads like this by people who pull 2k DPS in i350+ gear as a DPS.

*shrug* like I said, their money, I could give a damn about their numbers unless it becomes a serious problem. That and only that is the time I ever speak up, unless someone else does already.

But what ya expect? SE keeps making the same mistake of following the same path World of Whinecraft has done, and alot of high end content to be DPS races. Doubt they will ever change the formula up. Next expansion is gonna be most of the same, expansion after that, and expansion after that. They could start toying with making content very similar to how the new MH Crossover fight is gonna be but well, tbh with you they probably gonna save all that for their next MMO which will highly likely be True Action Combat, since the Technology is there now to fully support True Action combat. Honestly makes me excited to see what SE will do next for their next mmo.

But, it will be hilarious if in their next MMO, it becomes a DPS race too. Haha.

[Ultima]

*shrug* like I said, their money, I could give a damn about their numbers unless it becomes a serious problem. That and only that is the time I ever speak up, unless someone else does already.

But what ya expect? SE keeps making the same mistake of following the same path World of Whinecraft has done, and alot of high end content to be DPS races. Doubt they will ever change the formula up. Next expansion is gonna be most of the same, expansion after that, and expansion after that. They could start toying with making content very similar to how the new MH Crossover fight is gonna be but well, tbh with you they probably gonna save all that for their next MMO which will highly likely be True Action Combat, since the Technology is there now to fully support True Action combat. Honestly makes me excited to see what SE will do next for their next mmo.

But, it will be hilarious if in their next MMO, it becomes a DPS race too. Haha.

We've had the potential for TAC MMOs for years now, but they'll just make another MMO like this one or never make a new one because MMOs are a dying market. But I can guarantee you one thing, MMOs will always become DPS races because the best counter to mechanics is to complete it quickly.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Done it before. Can easily hold it off you specially in Tank Stance. I know the game is all about numbers, but their are certain other factors in play, its why I rip threat off every single other paladin I would threat battle against, its due to those factors. Ill give you a hint. Its Hardware related. I know, its sucks, too many inexperienced or simply bad tanks out there. Very few of the good ones even do random PFs anymore, they just dont bother, and why would they? They can cap their mendacity in Eureka now, or they just go with their Statics/FC members. I PF cuz I like the Variety and random nature of it. Keeps me entertained, but Yea I been capping mendacity thru Eureka too, its just faster.

Operative word: Tank Stance

The difference between you and I is you'll contribute a half the DPS I do despite both of us accomplishing the same thing. And even then, no, you are not keeping hate off a good DPS who knows what they're doing. And the only way you would have any idea is if you had a parse installed yourself.

[HyoMinPark]

Done it before. Can easily hold it off you specially in Tank Stance.

In tank stance, maybe, though the gear discrepancy between i310 and i360+ is substantial enough that I wouldn't be surprised to see tank stance as not being adequate. But if you were in DPS stance? Impossible. That was the part of your post I was addressing:

Hate can be held easily even with a i310 while everyone else is using a i360. Their are factors involved that determines this, but I done it for the lulz against high parsing dpsers and still was able to go into tank dps stance to dps while holding threat.

I've ripped off of tanks in full BiS in their DPS stances - good tanks, not poor ones - due to my opening burst and due to subsequent bursts after that. I would rip off of you in a heartbeat if you were in i310 and decided to sit in Sword Oath/Deliverance even with my enmity dumps. As I said, I don't think those "high parsing dpsers" were parsing as high as you thought they were.

[24spencer]

I'm objectively right about how the parsers work and the kind of damage it does to the game.

being objectively right requires objective proof, which you do not have.
you do not become objectively right just by saying you are.

[AxlStream]

Man I missed the fun of the troll thread.

[Tiaque]

Operative word: Tank Stance

The difference between you and I is you'll contribute a half the DPS I do despite both of us accomplishing the same thing. And even then, no, you are not keeping hate off a good DPS who knows what they're doing. And the only way you would have any idea is if you had a parse installed yourself.

True, I would need a parse, actually, no I wouldn't. I have what alot of players fail to remember or recognize what is called a Combat Log. Using this, Combat log, by taking a measure of the enmity produced, and any usage of Enmity reduction ability seen via this Log, I can determine Estimated DPS without, the need of a parser.

Can I outdps you as any of the three tanks? Yes, I can, been doing this far longer than near anyone, honestly reason why I quit, take long breaks, and come back is because it just gets boring. Honestly surprised that now I got ultra low ping, and playing the game at 200fps+ I am pulling off things I didnt think possible. But I been at it long enough to know how much enmity is needed, and when to stay in DPS and when not to, based on my group I am in.

As for potential of TAC. No, we have not, not really, Japan and other countries do yes. You gotta understand, for True Action Combat, it requires much higher data bandwidth and far more communication between Client and Server, as well as the need for low ping. Our US Network infrastructure spite being improved upon, is years behind other countries, notably Korea and Japan. Now its fine if the server you are on is close to where you live, but ultimately it comes down to where a bulk of the calculations is handled. If handled by the Client majorly, then it can be near flawless, BUT, its also highly vulnerable to hacking and cheats. If handled primarily by the server, you get significantly higher security, but it creates all sorts of latency time, thus performs poorly. Many MMOs have this example.

But back to Solidor. I have kept threat off of DPS Prodigies, very easily, while still doing high numbers of DPS myself. I do meet these prodigies from time to time in random PF's, they try to take threat even from the start to troll, and fail miserably to do so. I then get congrats by them, get my usual commendation, asked if I belong to a static, usual banter, then we all leave.

Alot of players never seem to grasp, this game is all about knowledge, and understanding of numbers, nearly all tab targeters have been like this since the golden age, since my beloved Everquest. TBH? Ive grown tiresome of it all, and I wish something, something GOOD, something NEW, would come out with true action combat, with Monster Hunter/Dark Souls like difficulty cranked up by 3 times, that requires reaction, timing and precision, but their isnt, theirs a few mmos that had that potential, but they squandered it, utterly, all of em being Korean mmos, save for one, but its psuedo action combat, and continues to be a huge disappointment. But thing is, I like Final Fantasy, I like its aesthetic, I played Final Fantasy for over 30 years now. So unless its Final Fantasy Themed, Everquest themed, close to it, and NOT korean. I wont touch it.

Sighs...welp, this game is all I got for now. But yea, ill say this. To any players suffering from elitism, in the end, its just a Game. No one in the real world honestly gives a care if you have Ultimate Legend, or the highest dps in the world, or the best tank, in the end, no one really cares the next day. Its your sub, its your time, do what is fun to you, if the game dies so be it, their are plenty of others all the time.

Just dont play Korean mmos, they are all cash grabs, one way or the other. =)

[RiyahArp]

I've ripped off of tanks in full BiS in their DPS stances - good tanks, not poor ones - due to my opening burst and due to subsequent bursts after that.

Well yeah, the problem is most tanks don't have burst OGCD abilities or enmity controls. You can rip hate off tanks easily in HoH too, mostly because tanks can't ramp up enmity gain quickly to compensate. Their OGCDs tend to be mostly maintenance abilities or non-boosted enmity attacks, while enmity gain is tied mostly to GCD. They just can't dump as many attacks into a short period of time as DPS, so they had to give dps pretty absurd enmity reduction abilities to compensate.

[SargentToughie]

Can I outdps you as any of the three tanks? Yes, I can, been doing this far longer than near anyone, honestly reason why I quit, take long breaks, and come back is because it just gets boring. Honestly surprised that now I got ultra low ping, and playing the game at 200fps+ I am pulling off things I didnt think possible. But I been at it long enough to know how much enmity is needed, and when to stay in DPS and when not to, based on my group I am in.

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