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  1. #71
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    Isn't it... rather... uhm... greedy players ruining your game-life instead of the parser?
    Yeah, those greedy players expecting us to pull our own weight. The gall of them.
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  2. #72
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    JohnSeal's Avatar
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    Andre Cat
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    Lich
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    Red Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    Well, you can get kicked out of partys even tho you have the clears and therefore be butthurt. ^^' Same as you can clear content without parsing yourself.
    Ergo, ppl that enjoy parses run and are relying on numbers so much should join and play with ppl that think like them. The weekly clear parties are not the place! Weekly clear, 2 chest is self-explanatory: we want our book and our drops! The run need to be smooth, ppl nice and TEAM PLAYERS that’s what most of raiders don’t get
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  3. #73
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    Ultima's Avatar
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    Hibiki Hisakawa
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    Ergo, ppl that enjoy parses run and are relying on numbers so much should join and play with ppl that think like them. The weekly clear parties are not the place! Weekly clear, 2 chest is self-explanatory: we want our book and our drops! The run need to be smooth, ppl nice and TEAM PLAYERS that’s what most of raiders don’t get
    So, make your own PF or join a FC or make friends with like-minded people instead of making blanket statements about how "evil parsers" are destroying the community and how those "evil mean raiders" just don't "understand". But of course, that'd imply you want things to improve, but this is a troll thread, my mistake.
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  4. #74
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    SargentToughie's Avatar
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    Lana Arunika
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    Ergo, ppl that enjoy parses run and are relying on numbers so much should join and play with ppl that think like them. The weekly clear parties are not the place! Weekly clear, 2 chest is self-explanatory: we want our book and our drops! The run need to be smooth, ppl nice and TEAM PLAYERS that’s what most of raiders don’t get
    No... Most of us do totally get it. If a Dragoon can't do a mechanic properly and continually causes an add to spawn, they deserve to be kicked.

    Stop confusing a bad player for a bad community, and stop blaming the tool for it.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    You're not. There's an option to hide your logs on FFlogs.

    You literally have the fflogs key on your lodestone character profile - you signed up to the site?

    ???
    While not extremely common, FFLogs has caused some issues for a few members in our FC. Granted, most of it was due to our own ignorance as to how FFLogs work, but at the time we did not know that FFLogs were opt-out instead of in. We were under the impression that even if our friends performance was sub-par due to certain limitations would could still use our own data to improve our play. Sadly we found out after some drama that other players were able to see their logs. Though I am sure it is rare.
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  6. #76
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    Ergo, ppl that enjoy parses run and are relying on numbers so much should join and play with ppl that think like them.
    In all fairness, the same can literally be said to you and what you want. Play with likeminded people in pre-mades instead of complaining when randoms don't fit your specific playstyle. PF is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're going to get.

    The irony of all your complaints is that Raiders DO get them. We just don't blame tools for people being lazy and/or inherently bad. Just like we don't blame them for players being "toxic".
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  7. #77
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    AmeliaVerves's Avatar
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    Amelia Wafflesmack
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    Ergo, ppl that enjoy parses run and are relying on numbers so much should join and play with ppl that think like them. The weekly clear parties are not the place! Weekly clear, 2 chest is self-explanatory: we want our book and our drops! The run need to be smooth, ppl nice and TEAM PLAYERS that’s what most of raiders don’t get
    Well, most of "those people" do it like that. But sometimes they have to move out of their way and join a weekly PF group to get their clears bc their very own static is not doing savage anymore but focussing on ultimate instead... talking out of experience here.

    And tbf, more than often I wanted to smash my head on the table when I was in one of those groups where people were underperforming like hell, DPSwise (enrage in o6s lel, haven't seen it since week 1 and then like 5 times a few weeks ago) but also have no clue how to use their skills and how to handle mechanics.
    That has 0 to do with a parser. It is their very own mistake to underperfom. It is up to them to be "bad" players and it won't change anything if parsers were to disappear.


    Furthermore, having purple/orange logs with every DPS in one party literally means they are Teamplayers. Bc they worked together and aligned their buffs so that everyone benefits from it and is able to pull out those numbers. They work with their healers and tanks as well to find ways and mitigation so they can push their numbers as well. Maybe you should try to find a static and find out what "proper" raiding really means.
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    Last edited by AmeliaVerves; 07-20-2018 at 04:57 PM.

  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    My point is that people think to be better of others JUST because of their logs!
    No...it couldn't be because some players are just jerks in general. No, it is totally because of parsers and absolutely nothing else.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    A orange log healer player is not better than a green healers but it’s what people think !
    With the exception of padding...technically they are if this was a competition, but rating healers are unusual in the sense that one healer could take on the full load of healing while the other strictly does DPS. This isn't a really accurate post - a better measurement for healers would be how little they overheal.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    Plus most of orange log players including DPS are playing in static and with the advance of discord, the help each other, buff each other and respect each other. On PF there are mostly greedy player that only care about them self that’s why parses are ruining most of player game-life.
    Which would still exist even without parsers, because the job of DPS players is...what was it again? Oh right - to dish out DPS!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    As healer I am exhausted of wipe on contents because DPS greed! Wipe three times in O7S at Biblio stage because a DRG greed, it damage 7 ppl, to waste cool downs on ppl hit by missiles it suck because they greed.
    These sound like very specific examples. I promise you that even without parsers, there would still be people who wait til the last possible second to lock the panels that should have been pre-assigned before the pull if the party isn't built as 4 melee, 4 ranged. DPS players get greedy at times - that's not a symptom of parser mentality. More often than not, they're either trying to get that last proc/combo hit in, finishing a cast, applying a DoT, trying not to miss losing out on a weaponskill due to rotation timing, etc. You don't need a parser to tell you when a player is slacking or slow.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    In mostly all occasions MCH refuses to refresh or purposely not dodge because can’t move during the opener it’s disrespectful for all of the others. The examples are many others..
    Another specific example. Are you sure the issue isn't that you are just playing with the same players who make the same bad mistakes? This just seems like not only do you not know how parsers/logs work, but now you are showing that you don't understand MCH either.
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  9. #79
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Most of what I've read in the OP has nothing to do with parsers itself.

    You're basically asking the suppression of a useful tool for the sake of nothing.
    You should do some resarch and talk with people before makings wrong assumption like this.
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  10. #80
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    SargentToughie's Avatar
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    Lana Arunika
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    Most of what I've read in the OP has nothing to do with parsers itself.

    You're basically asking the suppression of a useful tool for the sake of nothing.
    You should do some resarch and talk with people before makings wrong assumption like this.
    I mean, OP is pretty obviously a troll. I think that most of the other raiders in this thread, myself included, are just here for a combination of laughs and not allowing such a hilariously outrageous lie to go unchecked, thus further tarnishing our already Boogeyman-esque reputation on this forum.

    OP wasn't even being discreet. Bragging about how great they were, the "a great players" line... They're basically a bargain bin version of Kisai.
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