Look my logs up if you wish, they haven\\\\\\'t changed since May when I last raided - with the numbers that I used to pull, I still did not run into these horror stories that you and others continually claim to keep running into due to this so-called selfish mentality. If anything, the issues that tended to kill parties was players who couldn\\\\\\'t even clear the easier parts of some fights. Like handling the ghosts that tether to them in V5S, or making it past Virus in V7S.

Maybe y\\\\\\'all just had crappy luck. Would be nice if you stop labeling the raiding community, especially those who do parse, as toxic. Or better yet, maybe you just need to pick your PFs better.

Or even better, grow up and understand that bad apples do not spoil the whole bunch.



I know this isn\\\\\\'t part of my conversation, but wow...how little you understand about parsers, and really, logs in general. The things you claim that logs don\\\\\\'t show, such as mistakes, cool downs, healing - the logs show all of that information. The fact that you actually typed that up shows how very little you understand the tools that you are rallying against. Lagging is a different matter, and if the player who has bad internet can\\\\\\'t speak up and say that they are experiencing lag, like oh so many other people do as a courtesy to their fellow players, then the problem is that player.

Before you start accusing a tool of being a problem, maybe understand how it actually works first? Because it\\\\\\'s starting to become apparent that you really don\\\\\\'t fully understand parsers or logs.[/QUOTE]

My point is that people think to be better of others JUST because of their logs! A orange log healer player is not better than a green healers but it’s what people think ! Plus most of orange log players including DPS are playing in static and with the advance of discord, the help each other, buff each other and respect each other. On PF there are mostly greedy player that only care about them self that’s why parses are ruining most of player game-life. As healer I am exhausted of wipe on contents because DPS greed! Wipe three times in O7S at Biblio stage because a DRG greed, it damage 7 ppl, to waste cool downs on ppl hit by missiles it suck because they greed. In mostly all occasions MCH refuses to refresh or purposely not dodge because can’t move during the opener it’s disrespectful for all of the others. The examples are many others..