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[DRKoftheAzure]

Please get out of that habit. You should only use Power Slash to establish aggro and Souleater otherwise, especially as the off tank. By constantly spamming Power Slash, you will likely take the boss at an inopportune time and surprise the healer since they aren't going to be expecting the tanks to suddenly be fighting for aggro. Assuming a comparable ilvl, your opener as MT should be...

Optimized - (Better suited when you're comfortable on tank/with a reliable group)
High Threat - (Better for 24 mans and pugs)

You should also get into the habit of Provoke + Shirk, which helps the MT maintain aggro without the need of more combos or tank stance.

These two rotations are why a lot of people don't play DRK. The reliance on Dark Arts spam is ridiculous.

Or be like me and just have fun with what you got instead looking at some guide on how to do a rotation for a class/job that you main because buying potions and food just to clear Savage and Extreme is too expensive and is more of a chore... Also doesn't help that ALL ITEMS ARE ON A SHARED COOLDOWN!!! I at least need some gil for other things too.

[HyoMinPark]

Or be like me and just have fun with what you got instead looking at some guide on how to do a rotation for a class/job that you main

But you literally said earlier in this thread that you use your aggro combo as the off-tank. ._. It doesn’t take a guide to tell you you aren’t supposed to do that.

[DRKoftheAzure]

But you literally said earlier in this thread that you use your aggro combo as the off-tank. ._. It doesn’t take a guide to tell you you aren’t supposed to do that.

Yeah... I forgot to mention that I also us Dark Arts on on Syphon Strike and Souleater if Plunge, Dark Passenger, and Carve and Spit are on cooldown and I have more MP when I don't have boss attention in 24 player raids, because The Blackest Night is useless unless I have boss attention, then there is 4 player dungeons where using having enough MP for The Blackest Night is always a good and Dark Arts on Power Slash when Grit is off for bosses, and for 8 player raids/trials you always need to make sure you have enough of an aggro lead in case main tank dies or DPS are getting a bit too explosion happy...

[Kabooa]

Or be like me and just have fun with what you got instead looking at some guide on how to do a rotation for a class/job that you main because buying potions and food just to clear Savage and Extreme is too expensive and is more of a chore... Also doesn't help that ALL ITEMS ARE ON A SHARED COOLDOWN!!! I at least need some gil for other things too.

There's a stark difference between "I don't want to use a potion for this dated content" and "I'm doing the basic functions of the job wrong."

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Or be like me and just have fun with what you got instead looking at some guide on how to do a rotation for a class/job that you main because buying potions and food just to clear Savage and Extreme is too expensive and is more of a chore... Also doesn't help that ALL ITEMS ARE ON A SHARED COOLDOWN!!! I at least need some gil for other things too.

Congratulations, your "fun" makes it more difficult on the healers because now aggro bounces. If you do ever attempt Savage or EX, you will be forced into the MT role because any good tank won't fight you for aggro. I certainly wouldn't.

[DRKoftheAzure]

Congratulations, your "fun" makes it more difficult on the healers because now aggro bounces. If you do ever attempt Savage or EX, you will be forced into the MT role because any good tank won't fight you for aggro. I certainly wouldn't.

I actually stopped trying to do Savage and Extreme because of not being allowed to have fun on those fights and randoms always make it way more stressful to the point where I almost want to spin the boss so that it cleaves the group because of people of that mindset you have right now. And I'm perfectly fine not doing Savage and Extreme because that content is not for me. Also, how the hell does aggro bounce...?

[HyoMinPark]

Also, how the hell does aggro bounce...?

Because you’ll be spamming your aggro combo against the MT that is most definitely not going to be in tank stance or touching their aggro combo because the aggro combo on all tanks is a loss. That’s how aggro is going to start bouncing around.

In Savage, good tanks aren’t sitting in tank stance or spamming their aggro combos because there’s literally no need for it.

[DRKoftheAzure]

Because you’ll be spamming your aggro combo against the MT that is most definitely not going to be in tank stance or touching their aggro combo because the aggro combo on all tanks is a loss. That’s how aggro is going to start bouncing around.

In Savage, good tanks aren’t sitting in tank stance or spamming their aggro combos because there’s literally no need for it.

Good to know, and good thing I don't run Savage...

[HyoMinPark]

Good to know, and good thing I don't run Savage...

You still shouldn’t be spamming your aggro combo as the OT in any content where you have a co-tank (8-mans) or in 24-mans, though... This isn’t just a “Savage thing”... If you’re in a normal mode 8-man or a 24-man and you’re spamming your aggro combo as the OT, you’re playing incorrectly. There is no sugarcoating that, and you should really break the habit.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I actually stopped trying to do Savage and Extreme because of not being allowed to have fun on those fights and randoms always make it way more stressful to the point where I almost want to spin the boss so that it cleaves the group because of people of that mindset you have right now. And I'm perfectly fine not doing Savage and Extreme because that content is not for me. Also, how the hell does aggro bounce...?

What you find fun, everyone else doesn't. My "mindset" is to play the job correctly. Spamming Power Slash, especially as the off-tank, is simply you choosing to play poorly and getting upset other people don't appreciate that.

And aggro bounces because any good tank will switch to DPS stance and never touch their aggro combos again. You will inevitably pull hate, and they aren't going to fight you for it.