The Great Hunt (Extreme) should be named The Great Hunt (G-rank)

[Tiaque]

I think people may regret this. It's going to be hard to counter certain jobs advantages over others, like bard's mobility, or tank's ability to mitigate damage. I can see cheese comps popping up fast; 4x WAR or BRD maybe.

Naw, if its gonna be like this then their are gonna be achievements for soloing both 8 man and the 4 man, gonna be easily done for MH Veterans like myself. This should be fun. Cheese comps always been for bads.

[JunseiKei]

I think people may regret this. It's going to be hard to counter certain jobs advantages over others, like bard's mobility, or tank's ability to mitigate damage. I can see cheese comps popping up fast; 4x WAR or BRD maybe.

The only way I can think SE would counter that would be changing how damage works in this fight. I don't think our normal rules will apply.

What I'm thinking: there might be poison that healers might be esuna, but I'm personally not counting on that.
There might be attacks that will one shot you and your mitigations won't matter.
Maybe roles might helpful more in normal, but I'm completely going to assume it'll be different in Extreme (like HG might actually work in normal, but extreme would completely disregard the skill).

From looking at the trailer, was already seeing the tells for Rathalos' attacks (like the wind up for tail sweep). I looks like Monster Hunter in Erozea, but I'm still a bit skeptical (but hopeful) of the actual execution.

[Alleo]

It does sound nice but I am a bit miffed that such new mechanics only come to us thanks to a crossover..maybe we should get more of those into the team, for new and creative ways of fighting. x)

[Tiaque]

It does sound nice but I am a bit miffed that such new mechanics only come to us thanks to a crossover..maybe we should get more of those into the team, for new and creative ways of fighting. x)

In the next FF MMO im sure, since it will be full true action-based. Following trends anyway.

[kikix12]

It does sound nice but I am a bit miffed that such new mechanics only come to us thanks to a crossover..maybe we should get more of those into the team, for new and creative ways of fighting. x)

If these changes will be well-received, there is a chance they will be used more often in original FFXIV content in the future.

[JunseiKei]

In the next FF MMO im sure, since it will be full true action-based. Following trends anyway.

... Honestly, I hope not. As much as I like 'true action based' combat, it simply doesn't work in places like North America due to latency.

[Tiaque]

... Honestly, I hope not. As much as I like 'true action based' combat, it simply doesn't work in places like North America due to latency.

Naw it will be fine. Long as servers are in the right place. I get 20ms or less latency right now in XIV. But I use a Custom Rig with a gaming Nic, and a gaming router and utilize a service. All attainable easily though by anyone willing to spend just a few bucks.

[JunseiKei]

Naw it will be fine. Long as servers are in the right place. I get 20ms or less latency right now in XIV. But I use a Custom Rig with a gaming Nic, and a gaming router and utilize a service. All attainable easily though by anyone willing to spend just a few bucks.

"True action- based" MMOs (TERA, Black Desert Online, etc) only really work as intended on fiber optic connections. There's a reason TERA balanced the game differently between Korea and North American regions (IIRC, slayer was OP AF in Korea while Sorceress was OP AF when I played for NA and changes between the two regions showed in those are the two classes that received heavy nerfs in their regions. In NA, slayer never got good enough as the latency meant landing the skill that did massive damage was incredibly unlikely). This is mostly speaking in terms of PvP and smaller targets. It made doing Kelsaik a nightmare sometimes, as getting the crystals low and killing them needed consistent timing or it was a raid wipe. Until BDOs servers recently changed, doing world bosses was a flip of a coin on if lag caused you to die and lose large amounts of contribution to get gear drops. Any type of lag meant you were probably going to get hit by Kutum or Karanda's big, quick, one-shotting abilites (unless you just have high enough DP on a class with a good block).

It wouldn't surprise me if that's why Monster Hunter Frontier never came our way. If you've seen any of the "high end" hunts (AKA the rank ABOVE G), actually being able to time your iframes for attack is required as quite a few monsters have one shots and I'm skeptical if you have time to sheath your weapon and superman dive all of the attacks and get up in time for the next without killed.

Right now, with FFXIV, I live on the east cost and get around 270-320 ping. With pingzapper, I'm down to around 180 to 220 ping.

[Tiaque]

"True action- based" MMOs (TERA, Black Desert Online, etc) only really work as intended on fiber optic connections. There's a reason TERA balanced the game differently between Korea and North American regions (IIRC, slayer was OP AF in Korea while Sorceress was OP AF when I played for NA and changes between the two regions showed in those are the two classes that received heavy nerfs in their regions. In NA, slayer never got good enough as the latency meant landing the skill that did massive damage was incredibly unlikely). This is mostly speaking in terms of PvP and smaller targets. It made doing Kelsaik a nightmare sometimes, as getting the crystals low and killing them needed consistent timing or it was a raid wipe. Until BDOs servers recently changed, doing world bosses was a flip of a coin on if lag caused you to die and lose large amounts of contribution to get gear drops. Any type of lag meant you were probably going to get hit by Kutum or Karanda's big, quick, one-shotting abilites (unless you just have high enough DP on a class with a good block).

It wouldn't surprise me if that's why Monster Hunter Frontier never came our way. If you've seen any of the "high end" hunts (AKA the rank ABOVE G), actually being able to time your iframes for attack is required as quite a few monsters have one shots and I'm skeptical if you have time to sheath your weapon and superman dive all of the attacks and get up in time for the next without killed.

Right now, with FFXIV, I live on the east cost and get around 270-320 ping. With pingzapper, I'm down to around 180 to 220 ping.

Soooo what your saying is, ppl need to git gud with getting better ISP services, better hardware, and also request for more locally available servers? Ok.

Im east coast too btw, still get 20-30ms due to what I use. Never been a problem. Probably why I tear threat away from other paladins all the time too. From the sound of your high ping, it seems like you are on DSL or satellite. Poor hardware can also be a factor, something is very very wrong with your setup. You should not be getting a ping that high.

ISP your with can also be a factor, theirs many reasons you could be suffering from high ping like that.

[Singularity]

If these changes will be well-received, there is a chance they will be used more often in original FFXIV content in the future.

Exactly. This isn't just a collaboration event - it's also an experiment into how the community reacts to a fight design that's significantly outside the box compared to what we're used to. If it's a success, it'll encourage SE to try more unique fight designs in future.

I really hope it's a success.