The Great Hunt (Extreme) should be named The Great Hunt (G-rank)

[Awha]

Soooo what your saying is, ppl need to git gud with getting better ISP services, better hardware, and also request for more locally available servers? Ok.

Im east coast too btw, still get 20-30ms due to what I use. Never been a problem. Probably why I tear threat away from other paladins all the time too. From the sound of your high ping, it seems like you are on DSL or satellite. Poor hardware can also be a factor, something is very very wrong with your setup. You should not be getting a ping that high.

ISP your with can also be a factor, theirs many reasons you could be suffering from high ping like that.

Some people do not have access to decent internet. Personally I do enjoy action based combat like BDO, but yeah playing BDO with 200 ping would be painful.

[JunseiKei]

Soooo what your saying is, ppl need to git gud with getting better ISP services, better hardware, and also request for more locally available servers? Ok.

Im east coast too btw, still get 20-30ms due to what I use. Never been a problem. Probably why I tear threat away from other paladins all the time too. From the sound of your high ping, it seems like you are on DSL or satellite. Poor hardware can also be a factor, something is very very wrong with your setup. You should not be getting a ping that high.

ISP your with can also be a factor, theirs many reasons you could be suffering from high ping like that.

I wish I had more than one or two ISP choices in my area. I wish my "git gud" was something that I could control and not be a monopoly in my area.

[Derio]

My guess is that the extreme version of the event will be ran with.

PLD, any healer( SCH or AST due to shields probably) RDM and any other dps

PLD even though there is no aggro table PLD can heal and cover and provide shields. RDM for emergency heals if the healer goes down

But I hope the fight provides a dynamic feel to where any composition can pass the event in the extreme version.

[Awha]

I hope the community is down for the no aggro table aspect I would love to see it implemented in future content. I do fear the lack of structure will put off some players though.

[EorzeaHero69]

I'm mostly gonna get Monster Hunter World on Steam for this reason.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I wish I had more than one or two ISP choices in my area. I wish my "git gud" was something that I could control and not be a monopoly in my area.

Meanwhile his "gaming nic and gaming router" are all marketing ploys and do nothing to help his experience. He just has a decent route lol.

[Awha]

Meanwhile his "gaming nic and gaming router" are all marketing ploys and do nothing to help his experience. He just has a decent route lol.

Maybe his favorite streamer recommends it. Streamers know everything about gaming.

[Tint]

I hope the community is down for the no aggro table aspect I would love to see it implemented in future content. I do fear the lack of structure will put off some players though.

especially tanks, who are robbed of their main job. we already have a fight with no aggro table: last boss in stone vigil hard mode. and as a tank i feel kinda stupid there.

that specific fight also puts a healdebuff onto you when you get hit. so the whole concept is actually not that new.

however, as a DRK i guess i can shine here with TBN spam ^^

[JunseiKei]

With Behemoth having dropped in MHW, I will say, I never thought I'd ever see an actual tank aggro mechanic in a Monster Hunter game. Makes me wonder what we may actually get in XIV.

[ShadowAU]

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Forgive me going off topic for a hot minute but this is an attitude I've seen online for many years and it never fails to annoy me.

For a good many people in the world when it comes to their internet "git gud" is just not possible. I live in Australia, a large, isolated country with a fairly low population. We are also a country with an almost absolute ISP monopoly (a necessary monopoly in a lot of ways but a monopoly none the less) and a lot of very old network infrastructure made up of mostly copper wire. I get 170-180 ping to the NA servers, which is pretty good and due to physics being a thing, no matter how much I theoretically spend (I currently have the fastest internet available in my area, FFTN, about $95 a month) I'm not going to get much better with our current technology. This is the same story for a lot of countries in the world.

As for "gaming" nics and modems, they A. are not "just a few bucks" more, they're quite a bit dearer and B. are not going to do much of anything for ping. They will help with traffic management and preventing some packet loss but for the most part modern in built nics in decent mobo's and modern routers are going to do more than good enough unless you're hitting them with a tonne of traffic. As for ping reduction services/VPNs, they are also not a great option, for one they aren't guaranteed to do anything, they can try and get around your ISP's terrible routing but they're very limited in what they can do. Not to mention not a lot of people want to spend the monthly fee for one of these services on top of FFXIV's already fairly expensive sub.

Also, really? "request for more locally available servers"? I can't speak for other area's of the world but the Oceanic communities I know we are very vocal about wanting local or at least closer servers, the problem is that it's just not really viable for most companies due to the cost not being worth the size of the local player base.

Honestly "git gud" in general is pretty dismissive and insulting but in this context it's not just "pretty". No matter how much hardware I put in front of a bad network, it will still be a bad, but more expensive network. If if it was an amazing network, it still couldn't defy physics. I hope you can try to be less dismissive next time.

@JunseiKei
If possible try testing out the other ISP in your area, to be perfectly frank, when being inside of the US and connecting to a US server if you're getting 270-320 ping (heck, even 180 to 220 ping) something is either wrong in your LAN or your ISP's routing is simply unacceptable and would be one of the worst cases of routing I've heard of in a long while.

Ps. Yes I finally set up my forum account for this post. Yes, it's a slow day. Does this mean that games that are so ping reliant shouldn't be made? No of course not, most of the world thankfully doesn't have to deal with this but some empathy would go a ways.