We need another Housing purge

[Cylla]

I personally have just given up on explainging that FC transferring is not and has never been exploit. Selling plots or buying plots from a seller is againt the TOS, but Transferring leadership of FC's with homes is not againt the tos. Even if the accounts involved with the transfer belong to the same person its not againt the TOS. But I like said it has become pointless to try and explain it :P

And we get that (or at least I do) but Oliver has admitted out right to buying (and I don't even doubt selling) houses and as YOU just even said, it against the ToS. So again I say, this is just alright to have SE turn the other way and not do anything about it? All because it supposedly "grandfather" in?

This is why I've been long done with this topic. Nobody is on the same page anymore.

Point blank - "it" admitted to doing something against ToS, maybe many at this point, but one that stands out is buying houses.
Only thing we're all on the same page with is that this is 100% SE fault for leaving these loopholes open for people to use. IMO, creating nothing but toxic behavior among the community.
Only half of us are on the same page with wanting a fix that is fair for everyone, and getting rid of these stupid loopholes. While the other half (won't say names, you know who you are) are purely commenting and making their greediness clear.

May as well let this thread fall. Regardless, SE not going to do a damn thing. Oliver get away with 22+ houses as I'm sure "it" selling them and buying more. There will be no fix on the loopholes and if there is, it'll just be some stupid band-aid fix that will allow greedy players to just find another way around their fix. That just how it going to be. SE doesn't give a damn about it player base (at least the NA community) and nor do the greedy players. May as well give it up.

/end thread

[NanaWiloh]

And we get that (or at least I do) but Oliver has admitted out right to buying (and I don't even doubt selling) houses and as YOU just even said, it against the ToS. So again I say, this is just alright to have SE turn the other way and not do anything about it? All because it supposedly "grandfather" in?

This is why I've been long done with this topic. Nobody is on the same page anymore.

Point blank - "it" admitted to doing something against ToS, maybe many at this point, but one that stands out is buying houses.
Only thing we're all on the same page with is that this is 100% SE fault for leaving these loopholes open for people to use. IMO, creating nothing but toxic behavior among the community.
Only half of us are on the same page with wanting a fix that is fair for everyone, and getting rid of these stupid loopholes. While the other half (won't say names, you know who you are) are purely commenting and making their greediness clear.

May as well let this thread fall. Regardless, SE not going to do a damn thing. Oliver get away with 22+ houses as I'm sure "it" selling them and buying more. There will be no fix on the loopholes and if there is, it'll just be some stupid band-aid fix that will allow greedy players to just find another way around their fix. That just how it going to be. SE doesn't give a damn about it player base (at least the NA community) and nor do the greedy players. May as well give it up.

/end thread

I am all for people who buy or sell houses being punished. But someone admitting on the forum is not enough evidence for SE to take action. Anyone can come here and claim they bought or sold a house in game, but SE needs evidence in game that they actually committed the action. I fully understand that SE not simply acting on admittance alone is frustrating but that's how it is and needs to be so innocent people dont get caught in the middle.

[Cylla]

I am all for people who buy or sell houses being punished. But someone admitting on the forum is not enough evidence for SE to take action. Anyone can come here and claim they bought or sold a house in game, but SE needs evidence in game that they actually committed the action. I fully understand that SE not simply acting on admittance alone is frustrating but that's how it is and needs to be so innocent people dont get caught in the middle.

And I get that, but then why would Oliver (who is the person that owns all of them) go through the trouble of lying when there already enough heat on them for owning 22+ houses? In my honest opinion, their here to gloat about it. They feel/know they aren't going to get into trouble and that why they out right admit it. SE could very well look into the matter, they just won't. Of course, given how old these servers seem to be/code, who knows how far back data is actually kept to see big money trades.
But nah, I highly doubt Oliver is innocent at this point.

Either way, my lack of faith in SE at this point tell me not to even brother anymore. It beyond frustrating, and that coming from someone who does own a house. Whole system been **** since day one. And that been what... 4 years now? (lost count honestly). In that many years, here we are today still dealing with endless problems and things that shouldn't be happening, like loopholes, selling/buying, demo timer, etc. All this system seems to prove is that SE support the greedy side of the player base.

[Awha]

And I get that, but then why would Oliver (who is the person that owns all of them) go through the trouble of lying when there already enough heat on them for owning 22+ houses? In my honest opinion, their here to gloat about it. They feel/know they aren't going to get into trouble and that why they out right admit it. SE could very well look into the matter, they just won't. Of course, given how old these servers seem to be/code, who knows how far back data is actually kept to see big money trades.
But nah, I highly doubt Oliver is innocent at this point.

Either way, my lack of faith in SE at this point tell me not to even brother anymore. It beyond frustrating, and that coming from someone who does own a house. Whole system been **** since day one. And that been what... 4 years now? (lost count honestly). In that many years, here we are today still dealing with endless problems and things that shouldn't be happening, like loopholes, selling/buying, demo timer, etc. All this system seems to prove is that SE support the greedy side of the player base.

Cause it is funny. Either way even if SE did look into this further what would they find? That they used different accounts to transfer ownership? That is not against the ToS, and even if SE came out and said it was against the ToS it would be unfair for SE to punish players retroactively since they were told about how the system could potentially be used as a work around, and their inaction is what gave players the sense that it was okay.

[Cylla]

Cause it is funny. Either way even if SE did look into this further what would they find? That they used different accounts to transfer ownership? That is not against the ToS, and even if SE came out and said it was against the ToS it would be unfair for SE to punish players retroactively since they were told about how the system could potentially be used as a work around, and their inaction is what gave players the sense that it was okay.

Are you even reading or you just skipping half the posts before you finally stop and decided to reply having no clue what actually being said?

I'm not even talking about transfers, I'm talking about BUYING AND SELLING. BIG god damn difference here.

And we get that (or at least I do) but Oliver has admitted out right to buying (and I don't even doubt selling) houses and as YOU just even said, it against the ToS. So again I say, this is just alright to have SE turn the other way and not do anything about it? All because it supposedly "grandfather" in?

This is why I've been long done with this topic. Nobody is on the same page anymore.

Point blank - "it" admitted to doing something against ToS, maybe many at this point, but one that stands out is buying houses.