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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashiee View Post
    Exactly.

    This:


    would have been way more straight forward then this...:
    Made of win.

    You should work for SE marketing, Ashiee.

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    Thing is.. if more old players start coming back, they'll be more willing to pay if they like it (vs other games).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    Made of win.

    You should work for SE marketing, Ashiee.
    I'd even include something like [You save X% ou $X] next to 90/180 days pricing plan. The goal is to show the consumer that he will save money. Consumers aren't supposed to do maths and find out how much they save. You want to attract customers, like for any bundled sale for any kind of product/service. How will I save?
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  4. #194
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    I had really high hopes for this game, as most of us did. The willingingness to pay any fee with the game in the shape its in now is comepletely subjective on a person to person basis. Those of you that are happy and willing to pay the reduced price, kudos. But dont call out those of us that aren't. This game is still a looooonnnggggg way from being a true FF title, and even SE acknowledged that. I personally don't understand why they didn't at least wait for the new jobs and maybe a level cap increase to start charging. Those of us that have been playing for over a year now still don't have a whole lot to do in the game, and paying even 9$ a month to sit around and do the same 5 activities we have been doing for the past year seems like asking a lot. To me, a truelly good MMO worth paying for is one in which there is litterally so much to do in the game, you don't know where to begin. This game is far from that at the moment. Your options now are to level, craft, do 2 dungeons or the Ifrit fight. Thats a pretty short list, even for 9.99 $ a month.
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    I had really high hopes for this game, as most of us did. The willingingness to pay any fee with the game in the shape its in now is comepletely subjective on a person to person basis. Those of you that are happy and willing to pay the reduced price, kudos. But dont call out those of us that aren't. This game is still a looooonnnggggg way from being a true FF title, and even SE acknowledged that. I personally don't understand why they didn't at least wait for the new jobs and maybe a level cap increase to start charging. Those of us that have been playing for over a year now still don't have a whole lot to do in the game, and paying even 9$ a month to sit around and do the same 5 activities we have been doing for the past year seems like asking a lot. To me, a truelly good MMO worth paying for is one in which there is litterally so much to do in the game, you don't know where to begin. This game is far from that at the moment. Your options now are to level, craft, do 2 dungeons or the Ifrit fight. Thats a pretty short list, even for 9.99 $ a month.
    well put, this bout sums up my feelings on the subject. i hit 50 on everything a week ago and not been even logging in anymore. paying even 5bucks witch is what i was kinda expecting not a lol 3bucks off, is still too much for no content. i would be paying 10bucks for just the moggle fight witch i'll be fine with being done with in the week or 2 before they start to charge. if they did add cap raise, new classes or jobs i might of stayed just to waist my time doing it. the game is fine for people who are very casual and it shows how much mmo's are targeting them. also empty servers are my most hated thing in mmo's and is why i leave them and it's just horrid on some servers and no merges for another year or 1.5years till 2.0 is up and going is tooooo long a time.

    not to mention i can't give my money to a company for it's development of a game unless they plan to pay me interest on it like all the big boys up top that pay them. SE hit me up for a loan or something i'll shave a few points off of what your getting now.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    well put, this bout sums up my feelings on the subject. i hit 50 on everything a week ago and not been even logging in anymore. paying even 5bucks witch is what i was kinda expecting not a lol 3bucks off, is still too much for no content. i would be paying 10bucks for just the moggle fight witch i'll be fine with being done with in the week or 2 before they start to charge. if they did add cap raise, new classes or jobs i might of stayed just to waist my time doing it. the game is fine for people who are very casual and it shows how much mmo's are targeting them. also empty servers are my most hated thing in mmo's and is why i leave them and it's just horrid on some servers and no merges for another year or 1.5years till 2.0 is up and going is tooooo long a time.

    not to mention i can't give my money to a company for it's development of a game unless they plan to pay me interest on it like all the big boys up top that pay them. SE hit me up for a loan or something i'll shave a few points off of what your getting now.
    agree with you both. My main reason for not wanting to pay, other then the fact that it defnitly feels like a beta for 2.0...is the lack of things to do. I started a character on lindblum a week or 2 into 1.19....and look how much i got done in a short time....and i didnt even play that much.

    Nowadays i log in, look for an ifrit or darkhold shout (which rarely happens) get bored and log off. The next patch is add some great features (that should have been in here AGES ago) but very little content...nothing that would keep me occupied for a couple months or more for sure. They should not even be charging until 2.0 IMO, but if they insist on it...its their problem. I know a few people including myself who will end up trying a couple of the new MMOs coming and if we like it enough... we might never return...and im sure this will happen with others.

    an entire year is just too long to wait, theres a good chance most people who are waiting will find other things to play.
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    swtor in 12days, 8days if you pre ordered
    tera witch is free game play if willing to use there chronoskulls method
    gw2 no monthly
    diablo3 no monthly not mmo but still.
    by 2013 i wouldn't be surprised to see a new blizzard? fallout, marvel, dark millennium
    all these mmo's are different but all will take a piece of players slowly but surely till 2.0 comes ..lets hope they still come back and don't fall in love with there characters in those games instead. hell i been playing dcu f2p all week cause nothing to do in ffxiv and even though it don't feel like a mmo the week there has been more entertaining then the last 6months of ffxiv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    This game is still a looooonnnggggg way from being a true FF title, and even SE acknowledged that.
    As much as I appreciate what your trying to say here, Its appears a bit hipocritically back words. Being as you have the lower quote first in your comments over the upper quote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    The willingingness to pay any fee with the game in the shape its in now is comepletely subjective on a person to person basis.
    I would believe the second quote also applies to the first, and everything else you said. Its a matter of personal opinion and subjective as to whether or not the game is a long way from being a treu FF tittle. I personally believe it is one now.

    In my experience it has as much as many other MMOs, that are considered successful, had on there release.
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    subjective or not, what is being said is a mmo company can subjectively pick there customers and keep making mmo's in this manner instead. why waste resources on things when they don't have to anymore cause subjectively they will find people to pay for it. it should be the other way around. in all things in this world when you make new things from a predecessor it is always with the concept of "More" more apps and speed and choices on cell phones, more options in mmo's, more content, more speed, graphics and what have you. not less, nor launch early and charge for development cause some are willing to pay. they tip toe into the water with there mmo's and they all are going f2p and no new content by time they would of added that new content that matters. it's like half the tv series on tv, they make a season or 2 and canceled b4 you get a middle or an end. it's a cop out to not going all out to building a good mmo.
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    SE and the old team put out a bad game, SE admits it and that = Free game for over a year! Regardless of the state the game was in, people got to play it for free for a year and many people took great advantage of that.

    New Team comes along and that = really good changes, the game improves, we continue to get to play it for free.

    SE gives up a in depth outline of what will happen in the next year, so we know what we are paying for, and about 2.0 and what will happen afterwards.

    Game is just about where it should have been over a year ago, with the supposed last few things being in 1.20 (and at this time it's still free).


    SE also gives a discount per month for the next year until 2.0, and is going to allow us to change our characters if we wish, change race if we wish, play a story line no one else will get to play and maybe (haven't confirmed) let people change their names if they wish with the release of 2.0 and the new engine. Not to mention the 'special gift' players who stay will get.

    Seem to me (regardless if people are happy with the game or not) that SE is doing a lot to try and make up for what they did at the release of this game. I think they went beyond what they had to do in my opinion. I have never seen a company do as much for its players as SE has done for the people who want to see FFXIV be a success.

    ... Yet all people do is complain about everything, even when SE gives people what they ask for.

    I'm going to stay; I enjoy this game, the people within my shell and the friends that I have made. I also still have an interest in this game and, I'm sorry but a bloody a discount is a bloody discount. I never asked SE for a discount, I would have paid the 12.99 a month if SE said it was that price.


    Think I'm a fangirl or a white knight, whatever... at least I'm not kicking a dog while it's down and said dog is doing everything to make people happy. If I'm unhappy I'll leave the game, god knows there are other MMO's coming out I'm interested in.


    If other players are unhappy or don't like the game, well that's fine because that's their opinion. Stay. Leave. Start Over. Whatever floats your boat.

    This is my opinion, and you don't have to like it. I like FFXIV and I'll pay.
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    Last edited by KaiKatzchen; 12-08-2011 at 06:22 AM.
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