Heaven on High: That's it?

[HyoMinPark]

I didn't get "casual players" out of the phrase "players only really enjoyed the challenge of floors 180 to 200". I would assume 'players' in that sentence would refer to "players looking for a challenge" who didn't enjoy having to go through the inbetween floors to get to the deeper ones.

Or is this another time-casual vs intensity-casual technicality?

“Casual player” =/= automatically a Savage raider. Non-raiders can also want and enjoy challenges. You don’t have to be a raider to want to challenge yourself. I firmly believe Yoshida is speaking about the playerbase as a whole, casuals and raiders included. He isn’t discussing one group or the other.

[RiyahArp]

“Casual player” =/= automatically a Savage raider. Non-raiders can also want and enjoy challenges. You don’t have to be a raider to want to challenge yourself. I firmly believe Yoshida is speaking about the playerbase as a whole, casuals and raiders included. He isn’t discussing one group or the other.

The amount of time you'd do potd is probably close to the time a casual savage raider would spend raiding per week, actually. But we're getting a bit afield here, and its more I just don't get the design changes they made, especially the instakill stuff. I can't say how much it makes the lower floors pointless for casuals and im surprised they even gave it to the floors. They restricted odin, but not those. I can understand if casual hoh was a little harder than potd, but not when they seem to have made it the same or even a bit easier. I don't get why we only get three floors; yes, people spammed the easiest one, but you fix that by just making reasons to do them all, not gutting them.

The casual or not wanting the game to get harder doesn't really mean it needs to be pared down to the minimum; you can expand on it and give more complexity. But even the story suffered from this approach