There are more people in a single eureka instance than there are making pug pfs for all of savage. On primal Pug PFs for all savage tend to cap out at 4-5 instances per fight, with the majority of them being farm parties. This is per data center; seeing all of 20 pfs for savafge per data center is not a sign of a healthy game. The amount of people doing savage or ex learning parties drops tremendously after the first two weeks the content is live, often without a single learning party in pf at a random time. SE released minimum ilvl for people who wanted to do old content somewhat close to the original ilvl it was released at; it was barely used, even when they gave increased drop rates to the crafted coil gear they introduced. I had a linkshell mate who was obsessed with using min ilvl to do all the old content, it would take him weeks to find the people to finish one fight. The hard 4 man content in POTD is also barely used, the big way you can tell is that crafted coil gear of the two higher tiers drops there like candy, but never hits the auction board.
The playerbase can and will leave instances they find are too hard in significant amounts. Trials of Faith, Pharos, Shinryu, launch 24 mans, Tsuku, etc. They sometimes leave preemptively, or will leave after the first wipe. There's plenty of evidence to show that people aren't particularly keen on content actually being hard, in practice. Heck, even reddit now is mostly about fan art and fluff pieces, and less about git gud or complaining the game is too easy.
You don't need to convince seven other people to play that game with you. People generally do the roullettes because they aren't hard, and you get a bonus to help out. We have had discussions about mentor roullette and coming into synced ex primal trials which show the difficulties of hard older content staying relatively hard; many mentors dislike it because you can spend the lockout just wiping, removing the reward for them being there.
They end up nerfing through echo and sync so players aren't just facing that. Other MMOs generally don;t even have that; they just make old content trivial and you get your overleveled buddy to facetank an entire instance for you

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