Gender Bias in Character Creation

[Jandor]

Really? So your telling me that when you see a woman you don't immediately or within a few seconds take in the size of a woman's breast? And don't play the genitalia card because a woman's breasts are very sexualized. In fashion, magazines, TV, Movies, Anime and so on. A woman's Breasts are one of the defining and most obvious attribute that singles out the female gender. If your telling me that you don't take notice of a womans chest, effectively sexualizing that part, then your bold faced lying.

We have sliders for very obvious physical characteristics, things like height, muscle definition, and of course, breasts. A woman's breasts are much more obvious than the average mans groin, therefore we have breast sliders in games, but not groin sliders.

It isn't, directly at least, a matter of sexiness.

[Nyxn607]

I would rather see every male race get a muscles slider rather than a package slider. Unless you plan on rocking briefs or tight pants, a genitalia slider for male avatars would be more or less pointless.

[HyoMinPark]

We have sliders for very obvious physical characteristics, things like height, muscle definition, and of course, breasts. A woman's breasts are much more obvious than the average mans groin, therefore we have breast sliders in games, but not groin sliders.

It isn't, directly at least, a matter of sexiness.

Groin sliders could also very well push this game’s T rating up to M.

[Paladinleeds]

Groin sliders could also very well push this game’s T rating up to M.

And dependent on how far they go down the rabbit hole, it could get blocked from sites like Twitch and Mixer. Remember HuniePop? They had to release a censored version to have it allowed on Twitch. The uncensored version? That's a ban right off the bat if you're caught streaming that.

[BluntGamerChick]

Breasts are considered sexy, but the first thing people notice about men isn't their crotch :P usually. Unless I'm horribly out of touch. The argument isn't that breasts aren't sexy.[/QUOTE]

LMAO, no. You guys want us to think that but trust me my girlfriends and i notice. We talk about your back sides your front sides your chest and arms. Women want the world to think we are not as dirty minded as you men but we are. In fact, having been to several Thunder Down Under Shows, When my girlfriends and I are out we enjoy oggling men just as much as you guys oggle women. One of the running jokes, at least among my group, is how guys with baggy pants must need to obscure the fact they lack anything to show. But, I am not trying to debate who is more naughty I am simply pointing out that if a game is going to provide a sizer to a female Avatar then there should be an equal superficial attribute slider for the men.

[BluntGamerChick]

A mans groin isn't really the male equivalent of a woman's chest. It isn't sexist to have a slider for one but not the other.

Like above it would be set to the maximum for guys obviously.

But something that would help everyone is butt sliders.

LMAO, Oh i have no doubt. But my point is there should be an equal provision.

[BluntGamerChick]

We have sliders for very obvious physical characteristics, things like height, muscle definition, and of course, breasts. A woman's breasts are much more obvious than the average mans groin, therefore we have breast sliders in games, but not groin sliders.

It isn't, directly at least, a matter of sexiness.

Uh huh, which is why female avatars have the monopoly on running around half naked wearing normal gear in any online game. And if a mans groin is not connected to an over all sexy look stripper groups like Thunder Down Under and the Broadway Bares All shows would not be as popular. Make no mistake women are just as naughty as men and when it comes to that part, despite what we say to ease your fragile egos, SIZE MATTERS! LMAO. OH! And IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO EVERY GUYS AND IT IS A BIG DEAL! LOL!

[BluntGamerChick]

This would be fixed if everyone got a glute size slider.

I'm not apposed to that I'm Cuban Italian and French Id love to represent my Bog Juicy Booty LMAO. And i think a guy with a nice round bubble butt is very sexy.

[BluntGamerChick]

I would rather see every male race get a muscles slider rather than a package slider. Unless you plan on rocking briefs or tight pants, a genitalia slider for male avatars would be more or less pointless.

Actually ive seen a few guys parading around in just that. One guy who was pink kitty with looked like a show boy outfit also pink. Pretty sure hes batting for the other team but I have many gay male friends who I love looking at for the eye candy LOL. But that being said FF14 has done pretty good giving the option for any guy player or the rare female player on male avatars to dress up their toons in sexy skimpy outfits like the girls. But its just so disappointing when you set the buffet and forget to put out the meat LMAO!

[Singularity]

Didn't they already admit they can't add new sliders to the existing CC anyways?

From a purely technical standpoint, it should be possible to add a male-unique setting. There isn't currently any male-unique character setting as far as I know, so the character record field that holds the bust size setting for female characters is presumably just sitting unused for male characters. It could therefore be used to implement a new slider without requiring a character record structure change (which would probably be the disastrous amount of work that's why they say it can't be done).