Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

And yet I've never seen a DPS survive the cone AoE with more than one stack. They've hit the floor every time if they had two or more stacks, most die with even one. If they're just repeatedly eating the swings, then yeah, they can take a lot of stacks without getting one-shotted.

Oh, no. I meant the swing he does that knocks you back, not the giant cleave when he hops to grab his weapons. Sorry.

Agreed. Just left a Bardam's because of another WAR literally going into deliverance on the 2 packs of trash before the 2nd boss. Wiped the party before I could even get CDs up. Seriously, what is with WARs today? This isn't a world record speedrun. Not much I can do when you're going from full to dead in less than one GCD.

Unfortunately, they see experienced tanks pull that off and try to copy without realizing or caring how pull that off and not get themselves killed. Granted, it sounds more like they did that pull and didn't pop anything. I usually try to get a Steel Cyclone paired with Vengeance going because that pull hurts.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

So... Weirdest Vote Kick I've seen in a while. Logged into my main after messing around on my alt all day. I decided to do a Doma Castle run because I want that music scroll so freaking bad. I pretty much instaque as AST and as soon as the screen clears and the barrier's down, I see someone start running for the first trash group. I can't follow because I'm animation locked, casting Protect. The SMN doesn't bother to come back and the Tank starts like he's going to pull so I'm like 'ok, I'll get him later' and we pull the first two groups which is pretty standard. The tank is taking a lot of damage (and I've forgotten that I don't have a sect on, because SYNCED) so I'm not really concentrating on DPS but as the pack dies I notice the SMN is just standing there and letting his Pet attack. Now, I knew some people pre-SB that liked to let their pet do most of the attacking, but this person is in at least partial 360 gear so I figure they had to step away a moment or something, even though they never said anything in chat. I don't really think anything of it as we run to the Iron Giant. I do DPS for that since damage is pretty minimal but it takes a while because still no SMN. I finally ask during the next pack, 'where's the other DPS' hoping one of the others might have qued with them or maybe knows what's going on. No one does. I type their name in chat with a question mark. Nothing. We end up vote kicking due to AFK and finish the dungeon with a new DPS. (Somewhere before the first boss I remember to put a sect on, LOL).


My gut tells me this person might have been butthurt that I didn't immediately cast protect when I got within range. I only say that because I've seen tanks do that back in the days when I only had AST (and no WHM--so no Protect to crossclass). I dunno, they could have had a real Real-Life issue but they were certainly ready to go when we loaded in. *shrugs*

[Driskus]

Just finished Bardam's with a GLA tank. Don't know how he managed to not get instagibbed by the final boss, but he barely survived. Wiped once on the trash by the first treasure coffer because he took an AoE to the face and got one-shotted. First BLM left at that point. Got another BLM and managed to clear. Overall we were kinda surprised he managed to hold hate about as well as a first-time tank in Sastasha. It felt like healing a Brayflox HM speedrun though.

Apparently he didn't go PLD for RP reasons from what he mentioned (he even had the RP tag on). I don't mind the occasional RP in dungeons, but at least use the darn soul crystal. I already feel sorry for whatever healer gets him in Castrum Abania, because he's going to get one-shotted over and over again in that place.

[KerriganV]

So... Weirdest Vote Kick I've seen in a while. Logged into my main after messing around on my alt all day. I decided to do a Doma Castle run because I want that music scroll so freaking bad. I pretty much instaque as AST and as soon as the screen clears and the barrier's down, I see someone start running for the first trash group. I can't follow because I'm animation locked, casting Protect. The SMN doesn't bother to come back and the Tank starts like he's going to pull so I'm like 'ok, I'll get him later' and we pull the first two groups which is pretty standard. The tank is taking a lot of damage (and I've forgotten that I don't have a sect on, because SYNCED) so I'm not really concentrating on DPS but as the pack dies I notice the SMN is just standing there and letting his Pet attack. Now, I knew some people pre-SB that liked to let their pet do most of the attacking, but this person is in at least partial 360 gear so I figure they had to step away a moment or something, even though they never said anything in chat. I don't really think anything of it as we run to the Iron Giant. I do DPS for that since damage is pretty minimal but it takes a while because still no SMN. I finally ask during the next pack, 'where's the other DPS' hoping one of the others might have qued with them or maybe knows what's going on. No one does. I type their name in chat with a question mark. Nothing. We end up vote kicking due to AFK and finish the dungeon with a new DPS. (Somewhere before the first boss I remember to put a sect on, LOL).


My gut tells me this person might have been butthurt that I didn't immediately cast protect when I got within range. I only say that because I've seen tanks do that back in the days when I only had AST (and no WHM--so no Protect to crossclass). I dunno, they could have had a real Real-Life issue but they were certainly ready to go when we loaded in. *shrugs*

This makes me crazy @_@ Wait for the protect cast dangnit!
You run from my protect at the start, you will do the dungeon without it.

[silverlunarfox]

Agreed. Just left a Bardam's because of another WAR literally going into deliverance on the 2 packs of trash before the 2nd boss. Wiped the party before I could even get CDs up. Seriously, what is with WARs today? This isn't a world record speedrun. Not much I can do when you're going from full to dead in less than one GCD.

Ok, I'll be that guy. As a warrior, I cannot tell you how many times I've been told:

I shouldn't ever be in tank stance. In dungeons. As I'm pulling all the things.

Hey I can use sprint and it doesnt use TP didnt you know?

I'm not pulling fast enough.

I can pull more (as I already have pulled all the things)

Please pull faster


So I mean I can't fully blame tanks for this mentality. Some people, repeatedly being told this, will start doing it. Me? Nah. It's a dungeon. I'd rather not let my party die and have them do all the dps. Saving those few extra seconds....just seems silly to me.

[TruebladeNuke]

*Snip*

The healer part in particular reminds me of that one run I had of Zurvan (Normal/Hard) in which I had a pair of healers that absolutely refused to do the job they signed up as. A Tank job can only take so much damage before needing heals, even when using cool downs. I know I made that post somewhere in this thread, but I don’t feel like digging it up.

It’s why lately that any time I sign up as a Tank or Healer for Duty Roulette, I’m pestering someone I trust to be my Tank or Healer buddy for the run(s). I’ve seen enough crazy and/or bad Tanks and Healers to know that if they refuse to do the job they signed up as... things won’t be pretty. They may as well just be signing up as DPS if all they care about is their DPS epeen.

... I’d share a story while I’m here, but I haven’t had any silly crazy runs lately that got me to facepalm. Granted, I’ve been getting my Mendacity via Eureka lately.

[Aosha]

Well that was a really annoying Machinist in Snowcloak...
Pulling bosses, using Blank on cooldown, not killing the adds in the first boss, killing spriggans in the second boss and actively shooting snowballs away with spread shot, having Bishop Autoturret active on bosses, eating cleaves behind me (not that those hurt much, but still), not dodging Lunar Cry... And not correcting any of this when mentioned. Would have thought he was trolling, but honestly he was doing a pretty bad job at that too.

[Morrigu]

Snip.

When I have this happen while tanking (happens more than it should), I let them tank what they pull. If they pull a boss before I do, I step out of the room. If they kick me, well, I just re-queue and get a new group. Yes, I'm aware that they may have sat in queue for 5-20 minutes but pissing off your tank and healer isn't going to speed up your run.

[xkazh]

Still running DS and WCoM in hopes of getting the minion drops.
Pulled into DS today:
Didn't actually notice the newbie message at the beginning but quickly noticed people were dying in Deathgaze, so offered in pt chat to explain the following fights. Newbie healer v thankful. Marked myself so they could follow me for Ferdiad's Atomos stuff since I'm aware it's confusing first time (I'm especially dumb and it took me like, 3 months before it clicked lol). Mana shift always on Cd etc etc. Oh and another alliances healer was taking great joy in running in circles with the stack marker in Diabolos and actively saying so in Alliance cht (wish i'd been tanking, i honestly would have let them be cleaved.)

So yeah actively worked to explain everything in that run possible whilst still actually playing and help keeping people up with vercure, plus mana shift and still only 1 comm. probably from the new healer. its a good job that DS and WCoM are my favourite raids otherwise i'd swear off ever doing them again... I just want to get the minions in this lifetime. SE please make them a guaranteed drop, they're not current content anymore and afaik all the other raids ARE guaranteed drops.

[Liam_Harper]

Trial Roulette, Zurvan today and despite popping Shadewalker I still get agro on the boss and get squashed, then I pop it again for adds and poke them carefully and promptly get squashed again. Tanks seemed to have either been dps stance the entire time or started in tank stance for 1-2 hits and turned it off for the rest of the fight. This happens far too often too. Heck, I'm not even a strong dps, my rotation is a mess. I main Crafter and don't battle as much.

This annoys me with FF's dps-is-everything gameplay where a tank is encouraged to avoid tank stance as much as possible. A tank in ff14 actually has the tools to generate an emnity that not even a god dps at double power could hope to come close to (especially DRK), but they get punished for using them and don't. And so many fights are just a mess. You see it in dungeons all the time too. Getting 20% damage a little sooner isn't worth dead dps and agro ping pong.