Horizontal progression? In MY theme park?!

[Maeka]

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That's because everybody cites FFXI Pre-Abyssea as the poster child of Horizontal Progression and that's what HP *was* in FFXI.

You'd reach Level 75 and there's a million activities all to grind on, and your reward was gear that you'd wear for 2 seconds at a time constantly swapping gear for every little action you take. Blue Mage was rather egregious so I'll use it as an example. You'd have 50+ pieces of equipment (even though you can only wear 16).

Meleeing/Building TP? Wear Accuracy gear.
Wanna do a WS? Swap to str+ gear, use WS, swap back to Accuracy.
Wanna cast a spell? Swap to the gear that buffs that specific spell. Swap back.

etc etc etc.

It's just so ludicrous and ridiculous.

OR, how WoW did "Horizontal" Progression back during Vanilla: Wanna do Naxxramas? I hope you went back and farmed Cold Resist gear or you'd get smeared by one of the bosses in there. You'd have a suit of armor you'd wear for normal bosses, but then you'd have this alternate Cold Resist gear that you'd swap in for THAT boss and ONLY that boss. Blizz promptly dumped this system in their very first expansion, because it was universally hated, nobody liked having to lug around a whole suit of gear for one boss.

Not sure how else you'd do Horizontal Progression unless you're suggesting we do a bunch of things like Eureka or PotD that have their alternate progression... but then, try asking most players what their opinions of PotD and Eureka is and I'm pretty sure most hate it. Only reason why most people do PotD these days is to level their classes up (this should point out a flaw in the leveling system TBH).

[Ilyrian]

OR, how WoW did "Horizontal" Progression back during Vanilla: Wanna do Naxxramas? I hope you went back and farmed Cold Resist gear or you'd get smeared by one of the bosses in there. You'd have a suit of armor you'd wear for normal bosses, but then you'd have this alternate Cold Resist gear that you'd swap in for THAT boss and ONLY that boss. Blizz promptly dumped this system in their very first expansion, because it was universally hated, nobody liked having to lug around a whole suit of gear for one boss.

Pretty sure there's a circle of hell where you have to play that way again - but as an adult with a full time job and family - for all eternity.