Confused about people's obsession with open world raids/dungeons.

[Coglin]

Why we are assuming we are going to wrap to it? Mr. Slippery Slope? You know how many times I've had to tell people just because we want instances DOES NOT MEAN WE WANT TO TELEPORT TO IT. Either you haven't read the whole thread or you're just being a troll.

Maybe a dev should close this thread, it started out civilized and now everyone is just being rude and frustrating (including myself, i admit).

Kind of slow aren't ya? because thats how instances work to this point.

Bolded is another diplay of your capability to lie through your teeth. You have used profanity in 3/4 of your post. to inclde the OP, which you edited out, just like you went back and edited out some of the BS in the OP that the entire community called you on, 3 days later.

You claim everyone elses perspective as bad for he game, put everyone down who supports open world concept, and you want to sit here and claim it was never rude or frustrating.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

I see WiiSam, DarkRose, and Ymir's points. And from reading the posts, I've seen some opinions change as well.

edit: As this thread is coming to a close, the content of this post is being removed to prevent further discussion within this thread. Most of it was a recap of the thread.

[wish12oz]

So says the liar who changes his stance from post to post. You claim your blathering nonsense as "rebuttle". You Keep spouting garbage about how open world is bad and instance is good, then when the posters reply with a logic of there perspective, you call it a lack of logic and tell them how they are wrong.

you are entitled to your opinion and I welcomed that right up to the point in which you insult everone elses opinion and splash every one of your post with childish profanity.

Hi Pot, quit calling kettle black and be constructive.

All I see on the last 6 pages of this thread is that most people want both instanced and open world content; dungeons, NM, etc for both. Except wiisam, he just wants to sit in an instance all day with 7 other people. Woo MMO!

And this is right, both is good, but you need to not add open world content that will promote botting.

[Coglin]

ok this is last question and i'm done: you really think and agree that the bowl of embers is an example of why instances suck and that they can't have decent exploration? Just say yes or no. Either way im done.

I never once mention that instance in this entire thread. I bet your lieing about being done though, and continue to post your false propaganda further.

I never once claimed to be against instances, I like Darkhold and the AoE roaming, flying eye, as well as the ifrit raid. Both of which had a level of difficulty, but if processed well by controlled players could be sailed through smoothly.

I never said instances suck in any way shape for form, again you lie in an attempt to put words into another posters mouth.

[Tango]

And this is right, both is good, but you need to not add open world content that will promote botting.

This is not a good enough reason to exclude content that people want

[wish12oz]

This is not a good enough reason to exclude content that people want

With SE's bad track record of enforcing rules in their games, it's more then enough of a reason.

[Coglin]

With SE's bad track record of enforcing rules in their games, it's more then enough of a reason.

What rules does SE have a history enforcing that is " enough of a reason " to exclude open world content?

[Lucifer]

With SE's bad track record of enforcing rules in their games, it's more then enough of a reason.

That's retarded. People bot in games with instances too.

[Coglin]

That's retarded. People bot in games with instances too.

This is true.

Boting is against the user agreement. People should just report bots, and SE should take care of said bots.

2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

[wish12oz]

Boting is against the user agreement. People should just report bots, and SE should take care of said bots.

This is true, but it has never happened in the 9 or 10 year history of FF11, why do you think they would suddenly start in FF14?

What rules does SE have a history enforcing that is " enough of a reason " to exclude open world content?

Maybe you misunderstood, SE has a history of NOT enforcing their rules.