Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
From so many threads that have been repetitive and never get anywhere due to argument.
I would like to sum up the objective of each group:

Hardcore demand : a challenge content, that is actually hard. Something that feel like achievement because not everyone can complete.
This is hilarious, seeing as most of the so-called "hardcores" don't really want a challenge, they want time sinks and convolution.