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    Aviars Lightsworn
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    First I was simply saying it was not a fair comparison, because the reality it is a game the comparisons are not equal. when I mentioned my position regarding IRL I was simply stating that is my own personal view I follow be in-game or outside.
    You are claiming a high ground when you are saying you are unaffected by everything around you in game and that other people should also feel the same.You then extend this to irl as part of your argument trying to say that "games" are less than real life yet you don't care about irl either. That's conflicting in itself, you make a irl argument yet try to say my irl comparison isn't "fair." Yes, again you can't have your cake and eat it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    People leave the game for various reasons though I do feel at the core the baseline reason is lack of enjoyment.
    But you just claimed that nobody should be feeling this way in the first play in regards to cheating and rmt, at the very least you make that claim. This entire argument you have is that I shouldn't care because you don't care. Yet you say that rmt and cheating are having a negative effect because it takes away people's enjoyment? If you were to be consistent in your argument, you would be telling people like that that they shouldn't care because you don't care. You are making conflicting statements.

    You can't claim that rmt and cheating are a negative if you also claim that it wouldn't affect you, because then you would have to say those people shouldn't care because you don't care about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I never stated or meant to imply that you should not feel slighted by a change
    You keep claiming that I shouldn't care about this because it doesn't belittle my or other people's achievement. I really wish you would pick one argument or another.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    My issue is that you are painting your feelings as the general consensus. That is why I say RMT, and cheating have shown to have a negative impact on a games health, but for me personally I have never let factors like that bother me because I do not let them.
    And somehow you are trying to enforce your feelings onto me and others. Your main argument this entire time is that you don't care, so why should I care? This is why your arguments are conflicting with each other. You can't claim that cheating and rmt are negative to my face without accepting that people RIGHTFULLY feel that way. And if you can concede that fact then you can't keep trying to force your feelings onto myself or others. You accept there is a negative to cheating and rmt, great. Does that mean you accept there is a negative to making exclusive items non-exclusive? I'd love to hear your answer.

    I also love the irony that you are trying to claim a general consensus and repeating it to me to try and change my mind. Please

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    You understand what I am saying?
    I understand that you are arguing two different things that don't agree with each other.


    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Also yeah I would be okay with trophies being obtainable with MGP for all I care.
    mhm, are you going to argue that should be general consensus?
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    Last edited by Aviars; 06-23-2018 at 01:41 PM.