[Request] Add alternative methods to getting old Feast rewards

[Louvain]

Well, things got a little heated over the past few pages, but I'll just continue on from here about my main post;

Personally speaking I think the best way to re-implement the old mounts/glamours/etc is by making them (or a variation thereof) exclusively wolf collars, possibly requiring several seasons to obtain (so you can't do a one and done type thing). This way players will be encouraged to continue participating in Feast without feeling the pressure to try and reach top 100 and without losing the overall value of the mount.

As far as trophies could go...they could make a generalized participation trophy, but it wouldn't make sense to hand out specific "#1" trophies.

[swiss_Momo]

+1 from me
As others have pointed out there is just waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much wrong with Feast to justify locking timed exclusive rewards behind it.
(also wasn't there an interview with the devs of some actual e-sports game on how exclusive rewards don't work as incentive to climb a leaderboard anyway?)

[TheGrimace]

The limited time aspect for Feast makes it hell to try to get winnings even after entering a little later than everyone else. The whole thing's a sham, so I'm interested in seeing changes to how rewards are given. If anything, make it so the top 100 get the first picks- then the following seasons release earnings for wolf marks, even if it takes 20000. Something to save for.

[Praesul]

If anything they should add MORE exclusive. Players should be rewarded for being exceptional, add titles for world/server first in pve, or for the earliest 20 or so clears per server. Add exclusive reward to Palace of the Dead in some form....You can already earn 99.5% of what's in this game just by playing super casually, they should add more stuff to ignite some competition in other forms of play.

[Alleo]

I am fine if trophies and maybe titles stay exclusive but mounts/minions and maybe even the gear should be availeable through other PVP means. Not only is the top 100 a really small amount thus a lot of people will never get it, no matter how much they try, but we also have no rank decay thus people will just sit on their wins thus taking away the chance for others to get high but there is also at least one FC that sells PVP ranks..and if there is one, we probably have a couple more..(and lets not talk about PVP cheaters) All of this makes it really hard to even get the reward and I am quite sure that people would surely hate it too if raids for example only had mounts for the first 100 people that cleared it, or only weapons for a very small amount.

In the end this reward structure probably is not a good incentive at all and imo just means that SE throws all the money and time out for mounts that are only meant for a couple of people but were wished by PVE players too.

If anything they should add MORE exclusive. Players should be rewarded for being exceptional, add titles for world/server first in pve, or for the earliest 20 or so clears per server. Add exclusive reward to Palace of the Dead in some form....You can already earn 99.5% of what's in this game just by playing super casually, they should add more stuff to ignite some competition in other forms of play.

I have nothing against exklusive rewards if they are not time gated or limited in number. And that is imo the problem with the PVP ones. They are both. You can mostly just get them in a certain season and if you are on a certain rank. Ultimate for example and all the weapons behind it are fine for me because someone could try Ultimate in 2 years and the rewards would still be there. Rewards with a limited amount are not fine as long as cheating, selling and using alt characters exist..I could already see it..New Ultimate where only the first four groups will get anything...thus you have a world first that just go into this with their alt characters or sell it fast to others to get more money and everyone else that also did a great amount of work and great skill and beat it afterwards gets nothing..thus a lot of people would probably not even do it out of protest..PVP is the same. There is no rank decay, you have cheaters and sellings and people even use their alts to get the mounts..mounts that someone else could have gotten on their main..Something like that just brings out the worst in some of the players that will try to do everything to get as many of those limited mounts as possible..

[swiss_Momo]

also how about making older rewards available via a new currency you only get from ranked feast, on a tight weekly cap. So players have a reason to play x number of games every week throughout the season instead of just trying to rush to the top in week 1

[oLLiCS]

Why do we have to state it over and over again. Feast is a competition. NOT a grind.

Also I always see the same datacenter complain about queue times. Aether and Chaos (especially Chaos) don't have this problem. At peak times it pops almost instantly and if not instantly then it probably will within next 8mins (Diamond tier excluded). It almost reminds me of housing where people complain they can't get a house because of the overpopulated server they're playing on.

Most of you don't even know the feeling what it's like to see for example the season 1 coat. "True" Feast players don't want it to be handed on a silver plate to them. They want to earn it. Not by a grind but by pure competition. Buying it via wolf collars is a grind and to people saying wolf marks...man sorry but you have no word in this if you're suggesting wolf marks instead of wolf collars and I'm convinced you don't even know what wolf collars are.

Last but not least I have to tell something to you people out there who think you will never be able to get placed in Top100. Previous seasons and especially the last 2 seasons have proven that new players who are willing to learn how medals work, how to communicate, how to burst, how to LoS and so on, those newcomers did get good and placed Top100. Our PvP community is small. Most of us know eachother and we appreciate every new player who shares our passion with Feast.

[alimdia]

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Nothing you says changes the fact that only 100 people can earn it, it doesn't matter how many new people try to play it when you're limited to a grand total of 100 people and then it's gone forever. You seem to enjoy the game mode for what it is despite being probably the worst system in the entire game (and the worst class balance to top it), so why do you need exclusive timed rewards when no other game mode has them? If a Hellhound was reskinned 1 year after being released in the feast how would that change your year old achievement?

[oLLiCS]

Snip.

It's a competition. Not everyone gets a prize. Wolf collars were introduced so people who participated in a season but did not place Top100 got a reward too. There are 4 different colored Hellhounds already. Do you know the circle of rewards for Feast? 2 consecutive seasons offer the same reward with the second one being recolored/slightly different. If you put the same reward in another season, I can already hear people crying over people placing Top100 who already got the reward from a previous season.
Those rewards not only represent that you made it to Top100. Those rewards also represent each season. So bringing them into another season is just...

If you're asking for Hellhound being released outside of Feast one year later then please look up my first post or my first sentence here.
The class balancing as of right now is pretty good and you see every class being played in top tiers.

There's one thing I agree on with non-Feast-people and that's Feast rewards should have no relations to PvE. I know Hellhound was highly requested by the PvE community and putting it into The Feast was not a good idea. Same goes for the Magitek Conveyor (the flying seat from the scientist in Ala Mhigo dungeon). I guess SE tried to make people play Feast but imo it was not a smart decision. I would have liked to see Hellhounds being the current primal mounts and the wolves as Feast rewards since Feast is wolf themed. But SE decided otherwise, probably because the wolf mounts are Okami style and match the whole eastern theme SB has.

[Alleo]

Why do we have to state it over and over again. Feast is a competition. NOT a grind.

Great competition when there is no rank decay thus people can just sit on their ranks, when we have cheaters and rank sellers and when we have people that are using their alts in this. Lets talk about this as a competition if stuff like that cant happen anymore and people have to constantly play throughout the season to keep their rank..

Also in a way it is a grind. Just a very timed one. Because as far as I know you can grind x amount of times and even though you have less wins in it, the sheer number of the runs might place you before someone that played less but won them more battles. And thanks to no rank decay some can grind it out the first time it comes out, then sit on it and thus stopping others from getting to their rank because they simply cant get the amount of necessary battles to match them. That is not competition. You dont do sports in real life and get on top by playing a huge amount of matches with lots of losses and then just sit there till the end of a season to place high.

Maybe we can talk about it again if they have rank decay and/or a certain amount of matches per season which means that only those with high win rates will land on top..exactly how it is in real sports.