"Support Desk" Question on violation

[Vidu]

Again, very abuse prone rule, just because you may have been lucky so far to not suffer it, does not mean many others haven't had happen many times, and thus cant do anything about it but have time wasted and their day ruined, if it was not bad already.

And yes I seen players with miqote voice 5 kicked too, 7 times so far. One of em was even a tank!

Let me raise you this scenario then:

You've waited for your queue to pop! 20 minutes, 30 minutes... 40 minutes! Yeah! Finally! Doma Castle, its happening!

But... what is that? Ohoh... the tank has like 15k HP... you check the gear - Jesus! There is even some Ironworks left there! A second ring is missing, the weapon is the ilvl180 one you could get at the end of 3.0! Never the less hes attempting big pulls - and already dying on the way between group one and two. Not even the best healer could keep up when normal mobs are one-shoting that guy whos never heard of a cooldown in his life, apparently. Its very clear that you wont be able to finish this dungeon in an enjoyable and timely matter for all of you, because of that tank, who isnt afk, offline or calling you names. Infact, hes staying silent, not reacting to anything you say from "Dont you have better gear you could use?" to "Please turn on your tankstance at least!"
But you know that there are people online... friends - in your FC, in your Linkshells. Decent tanks. Well-geared. Able to do a decent run of Doma-castle... for the three of you, who waited for 20, 30, 40 minutes to get in here. If you could just remove that useless tank...!
Yes, you could leave if you dont want to play with them - and see your 40 minutes queue go to waste because of one person, while you and the two others are completly capable of running the dungeon (give you have a proper party-set-up).

I've seen situations like that - maybe less extreme, but all including undergeard, uncooperative people in any kind of content, from a healer in Sastasha NM who would literally not cast cure to people not having finished their level 70 jobquests and therefor lacking the 290 gear and important skills in Post-Shinryu content - far, far more often than "abusive votekicks".

I have kicked and replaced people in dungeons who werent willing or able to perform to reasonable expectations the group had and it made all those runs way more sucessful and enjoyable for everyone involved.

If an unjustified kick happens, that is very unfortunate and I truely feel sorry for the person that has been removed without a proper reason - but I also feel sorry for the group that is stuck with a terrible tank/healer/dps thats disruptive with or without noticing it. And in my personal experience and from all that I've been reading on the forums (do you know that "share a DF-story-thread"?) and heard from friends, thats happening far, far more often.

[Tiaque]

I still do not get the point, help me senpai.

Kicking cuz of bad gear is fine, thats a difference in Playstyle. Even though he somehow met the minimum Ilv requirement, he was wearing crap that he should not have. Regardless, thats what the minimum Ilv requirement is for in most cases. Kicking because of being unable to learn to do the encounter, or just not skilled enough, that is fine, thats a difference in play style. And its situations like that when the rule is properly enforced.

But when you get kicked, due to being a Miqo 5 or a Race they dont like or some other completely B.S reason, and they even stated to you the reason. The GM will not care, difference of playstyle, they can say in their defense something like "Her voice is too high pitched and distracting, I should not have to turn off my volume to deal with it, will make it harder to play" thus, difference in playstyle. It can also be unfair for being kicked spite doing everything correctly, but the other guys are severely lacking and making up B.S about it.

So many loopholes. But thats the world we live in, a world of loopholes. Once again, the GMs are not incompetent, they just do the minimal work required because they are not well paid Moderators like you see from other mmos. But kids straight out of highschool getting paid the minimum, only there to work on getting into another position in the company or to take advantage of the many programs SE offers regarding Video Game Creation.

Thats why in the end, if you can do stuff with lsmates or friends or people you know, its always best. Until they fix this problematic kicking system somehow, its always going to be abused, like many other things in the game, and the GMs will always, do the bare minimum, and find any excuse period according to their guidelines to reduce work to a minimum.

Thats what your 9.99 to 21.99 a month is going into. Deal with it.