A Plea to the FFXIV OF Community

[Rogatum]

You are right it is a public space so they are viewpoint is not free from consequence, but in my eyes telling someone to stop posting in a public space because you do not agree with their view is the worst form of bashing in my eyes. No matter how hard you try to explain the situation, if one does not experience they have no context to understand the issue one should not blame them. I for one am jealous that they have never had to experience such issues or if they did face them they had the ability to muscle through them with seer willpower. I get it I do not agree with what they are saying, and it does bother me that people out their do think this is a choice I made, but getting upset with them does very little to help our case, since if they do believe what they are saying, by telling them to stop posting will only support their claims or they will feel we are creating an echo chamber. With time they may understand, but if we push them away they will never understand. Hope that makes sense.

Long story short my parents harbor Crystal's view to a tee, and because of that I did not get the help I needed until I went off to college after I sought it myself. They will never understand if we simply push them back because they are woefully ignorant to the issues. That is just my view on the matter.

[Sigma-Astra]

You are right it is a public space so they are viewpoint is not free from consequence, but in my eyes telling someone to stop posting in a public space because you do not agree with their view is the worst form of bashing in my eyes. No matter how hard you try to explain the situation, if one does not experience they have no context to understand the issue one should not blame them. I for one am jealous that they have never had to experience such issues or if they did face them they had the ability to muscle through them with seer willpower. I get it I do not agree with what they are saying, and it does bother me that people out their do think this is a choice I made, but getting upset with them does very little to help our case, since if they do believe what they are saying, by telling them to stop posting will only support their claims or they will feel we are creating an echo chamber. With time they may understand, but if we push them away they will never understand. Hope that makes sense.

I'm telling them to stop, not so much that I don't outright agree with their posts, and I trust me I don't, but mostly because I feel that if we start to tolerate and accept that sort of behavior from the get-go then we're allowing the stigma to continue ourselves. I understand where you're coming from, I truly do though and it does make sense. If they were willing to see from other points of views, even after some people have gone above and beyond in trying to help them understand, it would be different. But, they don't seem receptive towards change and there's no guarantee that time will help make all that was once unclear suddenly clear either. People only change their own views when they want to themselves naturally and if someone doesn't want to change, then there's not much either you or me can do about it in the long run except hope as you've said.

After saying that they too themselves had suffered from mental depression and that if those still suffering from it need to "get over it" as they have done because if they can do it then so can others, then it really makes one cant their head towards the "...you can't be serious..." or "....did you really actually have depression or did you just have a bad day..." kinds of thoughts. It really makes you wonder how they can say those things towards others without so much as an empathic thought just like that without really taking into consideration the gravity of their own statements.

But, their comments seem more harmful than helpful, so while we shouldn't create an echo chamber either...I don't think we should allow that sort of thing to continue either if it can be helped and say that it's definitely not okay and while we understand, we don't have to tolerate said behavior.

Our viewpoints are generally close towards the same, but our methods are just different not that there's anything wrong or terrible about it. We take different routes with dealing about the same situation, yet can respect each other all the same.

And while normally, I'm a very tolerant person of differing opinions and would normally never tell someone to simply "just stop" speaking, but they seem to just be digging themselves a bigger hole each and every time in doing so.