Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
There's actually no difference between NM, FATES and Hunts. It's basically group to kill a big monster. I really can't understand this FATE hate...do people really expect not having to kill monsters in an FF game ?
Speaking personally - I hate FATEs because they're boring. They're not deep. They're not engaging, nor are they fun. So any content designed around being mindless, trivial, or boring, I avoid. Hunts and NM fall into this category as well. (again for me personally).

If you AFK during a 24-man raid and the alliance still beat it without kicking you, would you say you're doing the raid right ?
If you're doing a poor job and are rewarded poorly, it doesn't mean you couldn't do it great and be rewarded greatly.
But I guess some people are ok with mediocrity.
One problem with this statement, is whether I AFK and hit Scatter over and over again, or top DPS, I still get the same reward.

There are 24 man raids I join where I am top DPS as a tank. To offset this one time for science I went into a 24 man on my RDM. I simply cast Scatter over and over. I did AWFUL DPS, but no one called me out. No one kicked me, and I got plenty of loot. I genuinely felt bad about it.

The same reward for approximately 8% of the effort. Sounds like good design to me. /s.

Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
I think they're both equally bad since they boil down to fate grinding & afking. Had the relics + dyeable AF sets not been held hostage by Eureka it would be as dead as Diadem.
Bingo. I would bet my annual salary on it that's how confident I am in that statement.