1.20 this week?

[Agoven]

I would never word myself in the way UnrealTai did, but I agree with the bottom line. They need to re-evaluate the deadlines of the patches, because as it is, every patch is getting delayed.

Another trend I'm seeing is further delayment of the content they can't get ready, to a lettered patch.

They've also been adding in player requests enhancement from patch to patch...in a way those changes take up more time but they are trying to appeal to as many players as possible.

And we have to understand that they are essentially bandages these changes on the old system. We all know the database back end is in disarray...a bad database and continual bandage only makes it more complex with each patch.

They recognized this and needed to redo the game. Until 2.0 just expect delays. With the number of changes they do post and don't post that is released from patch to patch also. And while they stretch out the end of this current storyline I wouldn't expect too much content. It'll be just enough to wet our appetites into 2.0.

In the development world we always add 2 weeks after the fact...cause something always comes up. So just assume when SE says they expect it towards this time of month add another 1/2 month. Cheers!

[UnrealTai]

This is true in every aspect, however SE needs to stop telling non-programmers this date. When I get off work and jump on here I'm just a gamer again and a customer. I'm not going to act like I work there and should know whatever I get told will happen 2 weeks after the given date. Thats all I'm saying. Its irritating, especially when I tell the GF no road trip to the beach this weekend because of the new patch then end up having to go cause it didn't come out *falls over*

And above no, if your going to involve the public it needs to be more accurate information.
I'm sick of things being brushed off just because some promise was not made about it. It is the same thing as a guy stringing a girl along in a relationship or vice versa if thats easier for you to understand.

I don't think you quite understand what is being said here. For half a year the ESTIMATED dates have been off by 3 weeks, after half a year youd think they could estimate the date at least more accurately. Estimating means your trying to learn about you groups potential and your hope to hit that but need to gauge how fast the team can move. After half a year they can't estimate any better then before? Gimme a break. ^_^~

[Tempestmoon]

This is true in every aspect, however SE needs to stop telling non-programmers this date. When I get off work and jump on here I'm just a gamer again and a customer. I'm not going to act like I work there and should know whatever I get told will happen 2 weeks after the given date. Thats all I'm saying. Its irritating, especially when I tell the GF no road trip to the beach this weekend because of the new patch then end up having to go cause it didn't come out *falls over*

Seriously? You put this game ahead of RL and family? sad sad sad, do you not read the disclaimer up front? Maybe you should walk away for awhlie, your priorities are really messed up.

[Quisi]

Seriously? You put this game ahead of RL and family? sad sad sad, do you not read the disclaimer up front? Maybe you should walk away for awhlie, your priorities are really messed up.

And why do you care? he can do whatever he wants.

As I said at the start of this thread. I loved How Yoshi said it won't affect patch 1.21 XP In 3 months he will tell the same thing: I'm sorry we have to delay our patch due to testing bla bla bla.

[Tempestmoon]

he said it won't affect 1.21 because he has a seperate team working on it. And when 1.2 is implimented they will help with 1.21 or move on to 1.22. There is many layers of development happening at the same time. It's not the entire team working on 1.20. then move to 1.21 and so on.

If 1.21 is "Delayed" I won't be becaues of the 1.2 timeline it will be because they ran into issues and are not done yet

[UnrealTai]

Seriously? You put this game ahead of RL and family? sad sad sad, do you not read the disclaimer up front? Maybe you should walk away for awhlie, your priorities are really messed up.

Hmm considering games are part of my career from a psychological stand point, and aside from that it is my choice to sit here on release day of the patch to get the full effect from peoples reactions, I think that perhaps you can just go away ^_^. Not everyone has close family like you do or in a perfect relationship. And before you try to say something stereotypical no games have nothing to do with why I have lost interest in things with her. So oye vey. Games are more then just playing for me they are my passion hence why what I do with MSFT is for a living :P. I'm happy with my life honestly despite other setbacks lmao. If your asking if I sit at home and neglect things that I "SHOULD" be doing well the then answer is no :P. Deep down I never wanted to go in the first place, why? Well I dont know you so itll stop at that lol.

And yes ago I know, sadly people react more to negativity when attention is needed to a detail more then a simple hey and hand on their shoulder like the mentalist.

[Mug]

They've also been adding in player requests enhancement from patch to patch...in a way those changes take up more time but they are trying to appeal to as many players as possible.

And we have to understand that they are essentially bandages these changes on the old system. We all know the database back end is in disarray...a bad database and continual bandage only makes it more complex with each patch.

They recognized this and needed to redo the game. Until 2.0 just expect delays. With the number of changes they do post and don't post that is released from patch to patch also. And while they stretch out the end of this current storyline I wouldn't expect too much content. It'll be just enough to wet our appetites into 2.0.

In the development world we always add 2 weeks after the fact...cause something always comes up. So just assume when SE says they expect it towards this time of month add another 1/2 month. Cheers!

But even so, don't you think they would benifit from giving us patch-dates they can keep? I believe one of the first things Yoshida wanted to work on was "gaining players' trust", and releasing patches on time would definitely help in that regard.

Starting every Producer's Letter with "I'm sorry, but I have some bad news..." is definitely not the way to go.