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  1. #21
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    LeoLupinos's Avatar
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Firstly, if he wanted to let you die, you would, because he's the one healing you. Secondly, report him, don't remove a good skill from everybody just because someone used it wrong.
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    Last edited by LeoLupinos; 06-06-2018 at 01:29 AM. Reason: Autofill typos.

  2. #22
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    Vrankyl's Avatar
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    Tsenno Se'senovoto
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    As I said in the last thread advocating for Rescue's removal. ((There have been soo many of these threads by now)) Rescue is a godsend to healers who are stuck with tanks and dps who want to play "How many vuln down stacks can I get?". I've used it countless times as a healer in Experts to pull people out of avoidable aoes so I don't have to waste extra mp healing or ressing them. If anything rescue needs a lower cd. Others have also pointed out that it is hardly the only ability used to troll, but you don't see anyone advocating for those abilities to be removed. Just report and move on.
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  3. #23
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    Nana Hya
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    Firstly, if he wanted to let you die, you would, because he's the one healing you. Secondly, report him, don't remove a good skill from everybody just because someone used it wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    I was a dps, so he wasn't healing me at all already. But I have pots and vercure.
    Also, as soon I was pulling aggro, lucid and diversion, and hate was all going back to... mostly him, since he had to spam benific II on his lowly geared/not using CD/mass pulling tank buddy.
    So out of frustration of me not dying to mechanics, he had to troll me.
    That was on packs, and the reason why I was "punished" : aggro problems from scatters on packs...

    I will also add that when I talked to him about diversion, he said : "I don't know what you used, but stop pulling before the tank"
    And before that particular pull, after I was already quite annoyed by the rescue trolling earlier.
    So this is my "pulling before the tank".
    - Everyone gets in boss room
    - Tank starts running toward boss
    - I start hardcast verthunder
    - Tanks stops - steps back - steps forward - stops
    - hardcast @ +2.5 sec
    - tank runs back to healer
    - I stop casting
    - Tank starts running toward boss
    - I start hardcast verthunder
    - Tanks stops - steps back - steps forward - stops
    - hardcast @ +2.5 sec
    - tank runs back to healer
    - verthunder executed, lucid + diversion
    - I get hit once or twice, tank takes back aggro.

    Oh and please stop saying "because you had a bad experience once"
    READ the original post.
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    Last edited by Moogly; 06-06-2018 at 02:11 AM.

  4. #24
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Oh and please stop saying "because you had a bad experience once"
    READ the original post.
    I take it the GM said "no" and you came here to the forums.
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  5. #25
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    MOZZYSTAR's Avatar
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    Amon Kujaku
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 8
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    As I said in the last thread advocating for Rescue's removal. ((There have been soo many of these threads by now)) Rescue is a godsend to healers who are stuck with tanks and dps who want to play "How many vuln down stacks can I get?". I've used it countless times as a healer in Experts to pull people out of avoidable aoes so I don't have to waste extra mp healing or ressing them. If anything rescue needs a lower cd. Others have also pointed out that it is hardly the only ability used to troll, but you don't see anyone advocating for those abilities to be removed. Just report and move on.
    Right, like the saying it's not the [tool] that's inherently "evil," it's the person who uses it (in that way)
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  6. #26
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    RubixCube's Avatar
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    Tyrael Firenze
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I have been saved too many times to count is TsuEx as I usually am on the far end of the safe side for meteors.
    Healers that use this properly are a godsend.
    This use is really neat. Might run with rescue instead of Esuna next time. Yet to clear TsuEx.
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  7. #27
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    Zuzu Belloq
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    UCOB World First had a Rescue that saved the run.
    Let this sink in.
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  8. #28
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    While yea, it can be used as quite a effective trolling method, I still don't think Rescue should be removed outright.

    There are plenty of people that are using the skill correctly, so getting rid of a skill because of a few morons I think is unnecessary. It's the fault of those using it incorrectly, not the skill itself that is the issue.

    There are so many other ways people can troll and kill you, from the healer not healing you, to the tank shirking, just not pulling, or pulling out of Tank stance and just letting the mobs eat you when you eventually pulled hate again.

    Report them, blacklist and move on.
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  9. #29
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    Nana Hya
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    As I said in the last thread advocating for Rescue's removal. ((There have been soo many of these threads by now)) Rescue is a godsend to healers who are stuck with tanks and dps who want to play "How many vuln down stacks can I get?". I've used it countless times as a healer in Experts to pull people out of avoidable aoes so I don't have to waste extra mp healing or ressing them. If anything rescue needs a lower cd. Others have also pointed out that it is hardly the only ability used to troll, but you don't see anyone advocating for those abilities to be removed. Just report and move on.
    How many vuln debuff can I stack ?
    Let em figure out by dying. Easy.

    Everybody here keep saying they've been using it to save people.... OK, but on the other hand, do you think trolls are going to come in here and tell you that they use it to harass people ?
    No matter how skilled you guys are at using it, the fact is that it is used by trolls 2 times out of 3, that's what I experienced so far, ever since that skill was added.
    Else, when it is used genuinely in a rescue attempt, it's just failure after failure, with the occasionnal win, but you can hardly remember it...
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    I wish rescue was a little more responsive. It seems to lag a bit when you cast it.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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