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  1. #451
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    'Mess of a rant'
    My message wasn't for your benefit. Folks like you will remain oblivious no matter how many others point things out to you. It's for others in the thread to see the kind of player you are and why your arguments should be ignored. You don't really bring damage, you don't bring mitigation, you don't bring enmity manipulation. In short, you're a body whose claim to value is your ability to 'do mechanics' which is the absolute minimum requirement. As for your cooldowns, I can speak to those as the log shows me how little you use them.

    If you want to be someone who brings almost nothing to the groups you're in, then you can do it tbh for story mode content. Just don't come on here and post as though you're actually of value to the group/knowledgeable because you can step out of the giant glowing marker in time. There's a whole lot someone could "teach you", but we both know you won't let them so enjoy the remainder of SB's story.
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  2. #452
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    Kaliesto's Avatar
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctusT View Post
    You did 2300 DPS on DRG in o5s with a single death (9:04) on May 7th (kill time 10:04).

    FFlogs is a toxic site, and second off this is harassment. You plainly didn't like my comment, but it's the truth. We all had to start from somewhere, and I don't claim to be the best Dragoon there is, but I play this game for the fun rather than constantly getting stressed out but that doesn't mean I don't improve myself.

    I'm a little shocked the Forum Moderators are allowing this harassment just because you don't like me and decided to take a potshot at me like a childish troll.
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  3. #453
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    Rufuso Aesir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikuide View Post
    My message wasn't for your benefit. Folks like you will remain oblivious no matter how many others point things out to you. It's for others in the thread to see the kind of player you are and why your arguments should be ignored. You don't really bring damage, you don't bring mitigation, you don't bring enmity manipulation. In short, you're a body whose claim to value is your ability to 'do mechanics' which is the absolute minimum requirement. As for your cooldowns, I can speak to those as the log shows me how little you use them.

    If you want to be someone who brings almost nothing to the groups you're in, then you can do it tbh for story mode content. Just don't come on here and post as though you're actually of value to the group/knowledgeable because you can step out of the giant glowing marker in time. There's a whole lot someonecould "teach you", but we both know you won't let them so enjoy the remainder of SB's story.
    I think i remember you under a different name... That would explain a lot as to what i think about you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    I'm a little shocked the Forum Moderators are allowing this harassment just because you don't like me and decided to take a potshot at me like a childish troll.
    I agree, that shock me also,thats borderline offending not to say it is..
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    Last edited by Ruf; 06-04-2018 at 06:56 PM.

  4. #454
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    FFlogs is a toxic site, and second off this is harassment.
    Whenever content is launched is what you said. He simply showed it still happens after content is launched and reïnforced it by using yourself as an example.

    Statistics aren't toxic
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  5. #455
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    FFlogs is a toxic site
    I think it’s wrong to generalize a site or a tool just because someone used it in a negative way. You don’t blame the tool because someone uses it incorrectly.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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  6. #456
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    FFlogs is a toxic site, and second off this is harassment. You plainly didn't like my comment, but it's the truth. We all had to start from somewhere, and I don't claim to be the best Dragoon there is, but I play this game for the fun rather than constantly getting stressed out but that doesn't mean I don't improve myself.

    I'm a little shocked the Forum Moderators are allowing this harassment just because you don't like me and decided to take a potshot at me like a childish troll.
    Citing statitics isn't harrassment, using them to attack someome is. The drfinition of harrassmemt is "aggressive pressure or intimidation" which I'm pretty sure that post doesn't qualify as.

    Again, open yourself up to criticism and don't be surprised if you get criticized. That isn't toxic it's like... how life works.
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  7. #457
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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Kinda surprised this thread is still going on. I wouldn't say 4k is garbage dps, it's not top tier but i would imagine that pretty average.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post

    I agree, that shock me also,thats borderline offending not to say it is..
    Report and move on?
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    Last edited by Sotaris; 06-04-2018 at 07:23 PM.

  8. #458
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    You all may say that but now I'm completely opened up to get screwed around with now. I get there is people here that are willing to help eachother out but more often than not I've seen that tool get used for abusive purposes rather than the opposite. Now I need to decide whether not to post here anymore in fear of getting messed around with in-game because some people are now aware who I'am.

    It's not right, I wouldn't even do that to anyone online.
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 06-04-2018 at 07:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    You all may say that but now I'm completely opened up to get screwed around with now. I get there is people here that are willing to help eachother out but more often than not I've seen that tool get used for abusive purposes rather than the opposite. Now I need to decide whether not to post here anymore in fear of getting messed around with in-game because some people are now aware who I'am.

    It's not right, I wouldn't even do that to anyone online.
    You're kidding, right? Your name is literally right underneath your forum profile. And anytime you happen to do anything with other players, somebody may just happen to look you on whatever character you might be on to see what to expect out of you. I highly doubt anybody in this thread, let alone the forums, is actually going to bother you in-game. A simple disagreement is not going to lead other people to suddenly start harassing you. This isn't reddit or a toxic fansite of a Blizzard game - the community is better than that. If somebody does happen to pull that crap, report and blacklist. But a simple disagreement is not going to lead to harassment over your numbers.
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    Last edited by KaivaC; 06-04-2018 at 07:32 PM.

  10. #460
    Player ShadowHunterrX's Avatar
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    Mivau Lawantal
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Again, open yourself up to criticism and don't be surprised if you get criticized. That isn't toxic it's like... how life works.
    Yea critic in IRL. But in FFXIV it's kinda sad to be honest. FFXIV to spend your free time to enjoy and have fun. Does it really make you feel better by being *good* and Criticized less better players in a videogame ?

    Myself had bad exp from raiding because of these *numbers* was highest and was blamed for ignoring mechanics (Coil5). By the leader who died the most and I was removed from the group. 1 week later I got a tell, *So i am the highest now. We almost beat it now* It seems his ego for highest DPS was more the problem. But hy I beat Coil 5 in random PF before them.
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    Last edited by ShadowHunterrX; 06-04-2018 at 07:49 PM.

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