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    Caduagm's Avatar
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    Vincent Highwindus
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    You're exaggerating the gap in oGCD usage here by just equating all these actions as if they all see the same useage.
    I didn't count those, my friend. Do you wanna count them with me?
    Lightspeed, Essential Dignity, Draw, Royal Road, Spread, Redraw, Synastry, Time Dilation, Collective Unconscious, Celestial Opposition, Earthly Star, Star and Detonation/Explosion (sometimes), Minor Arcana + Lord or Lady since you have to press the button again, Sleeve Draw (I'm not counting the cards this ability gives, even though it would result in more oGCDs to weave). There are 15 oGCDs. You use at least 2 of them each 30 seconds.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Comparing the sheer nunber of AST oGCDs with WHM oGCDs is stupid. WHM almost always wants to pop oGCDs as soon as they are up where as AST can go for long periods of time without using their royal road/spread cancellers and essnetially doesn't use Undraw once they have Minor Arcana.
    Yes? But for that you still use Draw, Redraw and then Minor Arcana x2 each 30 seconds. That's 4 oGCDs. Again, I didn't count Undraw, Empty Road and Undraw Spread. WHM uses what? 3 per minute? Assize, Tetra and Plenary? I'm not counting Benison since sometimes you wanna save it.
    On AST are at least 6 per minute.
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Don't start victimizing AST
    First of all, hello interpretation. I didn't victimize AST. I was comparing its oGCDs to WHM ones.
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    I agree with you that the Malefic III change was needed from a QoL standpoint but it should have come with a potency nerf to compensate for the no longer clipped GCDs. Lightspeed and Aspected Helios changes are fine imo but they need to take away either pDPS or rDPS.
    It should not have a nerf. AST is the healer that didn't get any upgrade on its DPS filling spell this expansion. They should buff WHM since they're doing less than both SCH and AST.
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    Yes, I am. Because the oGCDs WHM has is used extremely often while ASTs most used oGCD is now Earthly Star and essential dignity. Cards were completely fixed.
    "Extremely often"? 2 per minute? How is that extremely often? Logic says hi.
    Cards were fixed but it is still in there. It is still an oGCD.
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    WHM is constantly clipping their OGCD heals and mobility is a huge issue for them.
    They're not constantly clipping their oCGD heals, they clip what? 2 GCDs each minute?
    But yeah I do agree with you about the lack of movement skill on WHM, but there's a easy fix by just increasing the initial damage of Aero II.
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    Last edited by Caduagm; 06-05-2018 at 03:24 AM.