Been running Ridorana Lighthouse the whole week and...

[Awha]

If it doesn't affect you, please stop telling the people hurt by this change to accept it.

I do not think I have ever mentioned that people should accept the change (if I did it you felt I have implied such I apologize) all I have been saying is that I do not understand why role / job should grant priority in the sense of being treated equally. I can see how it is unfair, but fairness is kind of weird since in my eyes the current system is more fair because it puts everyone on a equal playing field, and clearly many do not. Which is fine, but I do not think I have ever mentioned people should blindly accept what they do not approve of. I agree I dislike RNG with a passion, and wish it was not a factor but I do understand how that is a necessary evil when the game revolves around vertical progression.

You can't be serious.

It doesn't sit right with you if gear is more likely to go to a player who can get the best use of it?

It appears you like equality to the point of being impractical. Good god I hope for other players out there that you never lead a raid team. Players would be watching their BiS go to the wrong classes because of your blind equality.

Sorry I really do not see how a job / role inherently grants priority over another. I do understand where the other side is coming from though, I just do not agree with it. Granted my view point is based on the wishful thinking that SE will in the future add an npc that allows for gear-to-gear trade. That is wishful thinking.

[BillyKaplan]

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Equal =\= fair, as been explained to you before. And if you really don't see what's wrong with giving the same rolling rights to someone who mains a job, and someone who doesn't even have the job unlocked... well. Not much more to say, is there?

[Awha]

Equal =\= fair, as been explained to you before. And if you really don't see what's wrong with giving the same rolling rights to someone who mains a job, and someone who doesn't even have the job unlocked... well. Not much more to say, is there?

I have never said that fair and equal are the same. I have said that in eyes this current system is more fair then what we had before simply because I do not agree with the concept of granting certain players within a group priority at the reward that was earned by the collective simply because they happened to be the right role / job. Just as you clearly feel differently. What I have said is that overall the current system puts everyone on equal footing. Sorry as I said English is not my native tongue. When brought up how I thought the current system is fair in my eyes was to show how fairness can is based off ones opinion and perspective. Yet as you have mentioned in other posts this new system is overall more equal on an individual level, and equality when it is possible is a priority to me, even if he screws over some. Since either way both systems have the potential to screw someone over.

If there was no problem they should not have changed it. Your "ideal" is all well and good, but the fact is that no other content handles loot rolls this way -- and there are a number of good reasons for that. In deviating from the way people generally expect the game to work (because that's how the game has worked in all content up to that point), they really should have offered a compelling rationale. No such rationale has been articulated, to my knowledge, by any party.

Perhaps the reasoning is "it makes it easier to gear off-Jobs". Well, maybe, but we're talking about a raid with a weekly loot lockout. (And besides, do we really want to start giving people gear for Jobs which they aren't earning by playing that Job?) The only other thing I can come up with is that they're trying to force people who want gear from Lighthouse to have to run it more to get what they want from it. That's an odd route to take for second-rate gear that's supposed to help players "catch up" (and almost comical given the absurdities they've unleashed with their failure to implement hard or soft enrages on the bosses in there).

It just makes no sense, from any angle.

You are right if things went back to old system I would not lose sleep over the change, nor did I ever really expect them to make such a change since it is so far out the norm for how things have been handled in the past. It was a pleasant surprise when they did announce the change, since frankly I do not think many really requested the change even on the JP side it seemed like it was not a very popular idea. This system change is 100% outside the norm and one I do not expect to last very long. In the end I do support the change since never really understood the concept behind granting individuals priority over the group. Granted I dislike RNG, but if things have to be RNG this is why I am more in favor of a token based system but that is not all that important for the topic at hand. Though I do understand why many are not a huge fan of the change either.