Warrior of Light Twisted and Warped?

[Dualblade]

Well when most of the WoL you meet are only during a battle, sometimes after you try and make off with an apparently legendary sword they were just about to gain it isn't surprising he wouldn't see the more cheerful side to them. Plus he seems to like the XIV WoL well enough and thats before getting into Bartz and co.

Also Gilgamesh doesn't make for a very good father figure.

[EdwinLi]

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Gilgamesh is refering to all the Warriors of Light from the entire FF series. He mentions this during his first appearance in Mobius and even compares Mobius WoL to certain ones such as Mobius WoL personality being close to Cloud and Squall.

Gilgamesh will even mention his FF14 title he was called by Hildebrand being the Gentlemen Collector.

As for the "name", the basic info we obtained in the storyline is that the name is simply made up name that the first Warrior of Light in Palamecia had and it was given the Mobius WoL simply because the Prophecy said that must be his name. Mobius WoL's True name is lost due to his memory wipe when he entered Palamecia and he only sticks with the given name from the Prophecy because it is the only name he knows.

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Well on the plus side atleast Gilgamesh get more character development in Mobius. With Palamecia so closely linked to the Void which gives Gilgamesh easy access to Palamecia, it makes me wonder if Palamecia is inside the Void itself due to how flexable the world is with constantly creating new places in the world that originally did not exist there.

[Yuyuka3]

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Mobius treats all players as a Warrior of Light in an alternate reality/dimension, yes?

I ask because it's common in mobage to have all players assume the same title and role in the story: Mobius FF has the Warrior of Light, F/Go has the Master of Chaldea, FE Heroes has the Summoner of the Order of Heroes, etc. If that's true, then the dialogue is likely just meta-referencing how every player (Warrior of Light) has fought him, and how every player has their own problems they're dealing with. I wouldn't necessarily link it with the main franchise.

Kind of touching, though.

My mobage of choice isn't Mobius, but I do play FE Heroes. Add me to your friends list so I can force Julius to visit your tedious hovel!

To the hidden part:

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[Cilia]

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I stand corrected! However, Cloud is never called a Warrior of Light in his home game. The term never comes up once in the script, and Gilgamesh never shows up in VII. Due to this inconsistency, I will not consider this canon - to XIV, at least. It's canon to itself, for sure, but otherwise... best to take it with a pinch of salt.

To the hidden part:

Sent! I go by "Locust God" on that one.

To anyone who wants to add me, my FEH number is 6992777298. Help Julius live his dream of killing Reinhardt and his sister this Voting Gauntlet, maybe!

[Dualblade]

Maybe his talking about Cloud is hinting at him appearing in the PS4 version when it comes out.

[Enkidoh]

It's still a cop-out though - the very term 'Warrior of Light' was only really associated with the early NES-era games and had all but disappeared from use by FFVI (and even then FFII did not use it at all, neither did FFIV from what I remember - even FFXI, a game mentioned by it's former producer as being "everything we wanted to do with FFIII originally but couldn't due to the technical limitations of the time", did not feature the term - it used the term 'Crystal Warriors' instead, but even that was not used for the player's character and ended up referring to something completely different).

Only since FFXIV has the 'Warriors of Light' term come back into use, mostly due to SE returning to it's roots and featuring a lot of callbacks and references to it's history in their most recent FF titles, FFXIV included.

So yeah, once again I'm not going to take Gilgamesh's ramblings in a spin-off title as reflective of events in the main series, especially not FFXIV.

[EdwinLi]

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If that is what you believe then go for it.

Gilgamesh follows his own Canon in the FF series anyways due to his link to the void and it is very difficult to keep track of his timeline since SE refuse to provide a flow chart of Gilgamesh's life in FF series. Not to mention the clues Gilgamesh provides is very small to put together a proper timeline itself.

He still remembers the events of Dissidia as well which is where he met certain Warriors of Light and Warriors of Darkness. As for how he could have been in each FF world, it is most likely he kept his distance and the encounters we have with Gilgamesh in certin FF games are mostly only when he determined they are ready for a fight. If not he mostly seem to just stay in the distance out of view and watch how their story unfold.

For me it seems Mobius events for Gilgamesh is Canon to his lore as it does fit into what is known about Gilgamesh's life through the FF series and how messy the Void is with following a separate law of reality to the point it defies any understanding of time and space. If anything Mobius events is most likely Gilgamesh's off time place when he is not exploring a different FF world.

The only thing certain about Gilgamesh timeline is that FFVIII self is his oldest version that has already obtained Excalibur and we yet to reach the point in Gilgamesh's timeline where we discover how he became his FFVIII self since every encounter after and before FFVIII has been his Pre-Excalibur self.

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Gilgamesh does remember the events of Dissidia as well so could have Cloud direct through Dissidia battles even if it is not in FF7 world.

Also, from what he said he has been watching each FF world from the distance and only appears infront of them once he determines they are worthy of a fight. Due to this it is most likely Gilgamesh has been to all FF worlds but we don't meet him in some because he been keeping his distance.

Heck, Gilgamesh even has no interests in taking Mobius WoL weapons until he has proven himself worth of Warrior of Light title and only gets invovled in these events to train Mobius WoL into becoming a Warrior of Light or just for some fun since he has nothing better to do.

Maybe his talking about Cloud is hinting at him appearing in the PS4 version when it comes out.

That is a possible outcome since the Void follows a different law of reality that creates a separate flow of time so most likely Gilgamesh has met all FF characters at some point already even if we have not seen that event yet since time in the void flows completely differently from what we know when it comes to time.

It is because of this why Gilgamesh made appearances in FF1 remake and event FFIV After Years.

[Cilia]

... but the characters in Dissidia are recognized as Warriors of Cosmos / Chaos (and perhaps Spiritus / Materia in NT; I haven't picked that one up and have no intention of doing so), not Warriors of Light / Darkness. So Gilgamesh recognizing Cloud as a Warrior of Light... doesn't make sense from a meta perspective... perhaps within Mobius' own canon, but otherwise it's inconsistent.

I would again posit that it's meant to be words of encouragement toward the player rather than commentary on the franchise's protagonists and leave it at that. This is also a fairly common thing in mobage, such as one of Lyon's castle quotes in FEH:

You work so hard, but I want you to know that—if you need to—it's OK to cry. Nobody here knows what you've been through but you.

[Okamimaru]

I was working on the theory that Siegfried from ff6 was Greg in disguise until Siegfried showed up in deltascapes phantom train