Warrior of Light Twisted and Warped?

[EdwinLi]

So do you think the Warrior of Light in FF14 is twisted, warped, bent, and/or broken in a way through the story perspective of things?

As quote from Gilgamesh in Final Fantasy Mobius....

"As it should be, as it should be! I've been to countless worlds, and met many Warriors of Light. And not a single one was particularly cheerful. Let alone "good." Ah, they're all twisted in this way , or warped in that way. Bent in one way or broken in another."
-Gilgamesh

"But they overcame their faults and succeeded. Hmm."
-Mobius WoL

"Or perhaps they accepted their failings and became stronger for it!"
-Gilgamesh

(Note: Gilgamesh is including the FF14 Warrior of Light as one of countless WoL he met already)

[ObsidianFire]

The Dark Knight quests revolve around this...

The short answer is, most likely....

[Cilia]

Does this include all the Warriors of Light from the whole franchise? 'cuz there are plenty of unambiguously good Warriors of Light... like the Light Warriors from I... and the term kind of fell out of favor after V... and I wouldn't put much stock in commentary from a mobile spin-off game...

To directly answer the question, the XIV Warrior of Light develops some psychological issues which are covered in the DRK 30-50 and 60-70 questlines, but are otherwise of sound mind. Their resilience is phenomenal, to the point Fordola questions how they can endure everything they have.

[EdwinLi]

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Gilgamesh is talking about all Warriors of Light that he has met throughout his life in the FF series.

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From what Gilgamesh said he has been watching these WoL even before he decided to make a physical appearance. Even knowing as far as how their story begins to how it ends. Seems no matter what moment Gilgamesh meets a WoL, he has been secretly stalking them from the distance.

Also, the point of Gilgamesh event in Mobius is to not take it seriously even if it is part of Gilgamesh's Lore. For him the Mobius tower is just a playground for him to test himself against Mobius WoL since he does not acknowledge Mobius WoL as a actual Warrior of Light yet and with the Tower being in the Void it is basically in his territory.

Don't forget the Void is not something connected to what is Canon and not canon in the FF series but is a place where everything is canon to the reality of Gilgamesh at this point. To make sense of anything that happens in the Void is like try to make sense of what Gilgamesh is thinking.

[Cilia]

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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Mobius treats all players as a Warrior of Light in an alternate reality/dimension, yes?

I ask because it's common in mobage to have all players assume the same title and role in the story: Mobius FF has the Warrior of Light, F/Go has the Master of Chaldea, FE Heroes has the Summoner of the Order of Heroes, etc. If that's true, then the dialogue is likely just meta-referencing how every player (Warrior of Light) has fought him, and how every player has their own problems they're dealing with. I wouldn't necessarily link it with the main franchise.

Kind of touching, though.

My mobage of choice isn't Mobius, but I do play FE Heroes. Add me to your friends list so I can force Julius to visit your tedious hovel!

[EdwinLi]

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Gilgamesh is refering to all the Warriors of Light from the entire FF series. He mentions this during his first appearance in Mobius and even compares Mobius WoL to certain ones such as Mobius WoL personality being close to Cloud and Squall.

Gilgamesh will even mention his FF14 title he was called by Hildebrand being the Gentlemen Collector.

As for the "name", the basic info we obtained in the storyline is that the name is simply made up name that the first Warrior of Light in Palamecia had and it was given the Mobius WoL simply because the Prophecy said that must be his name. Mobius WoL's True name is lost due to his memory wipe when he entered Palamecia and he only sticks with the given name from the Prophecy because it is the only name he knows.

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Well on the plus side atleast Gilgamesh get more character development in Mobius. With Palamecia so closely linked to the Void which gives Gilgamesh easy access to Palamecia, it makes me wonder if Palamecia is inside the Void itself due to how flexable the world is with constantly creating new places in the world that originally did not exist there.

[Yuyuka3]

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Mobius treats all players as a Warrior of Light in an alternate reality/dimension, yes?

I ask because it's common in mobage to have all players assume the same title and role in the story: Mobius FF has the Warrior of Light, F/Go has the Master of Chaldea, FE Heroes has the Summoner of the Order of Heroes, etc. If that's true, then the dialogue is likely just meta-referencing how every player (Warrior of Light) has fought him, and how every player has their own problems they're dealing with. I wouldn't necessarily link it with the main franchise.

Kind of touching, though.

My mobage of choice isn't Mobius, but I do play FE Heroes. Add me to your friends list so I can force Julius to visit your tedious hovel!

To the hidden part:

Oh cool, I play Heroes, too! Friend ID is 9241509152, name's Kyara if you want to add me!

[Cilia]

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I stand corrected! However, Cloud is never called a Warrior of Light in his home game. The term never comes up once in the script, and Gilgamesh never shows up in VII. Due to this inconsistency, I will not consider this canon - to XIV, at least. It's canon to itself, for sure, but otherwise... best to take it with a pinch of salt.

To the hidden part:

Sent! I go by "Locust God" on that one.

To anyone who wants to add me, my FEH number is 6992777298. Help Julius live his dream of killing Reinhardt and his sister this Voting Gauntlet, maybe!

[Anonymoose]

A story without drama is scarcely a story at all, and a story's drama tends to be entwined with its protagonist(s). Ergo, any Warrior of Light really isn't having a particularly easy and care-free time of it.

They're thrown into harsh situations with little understanding. They struggle to get stronger and improve and master their circumstances. They fear that any failure will cause it all to unravel and face constant anxiety over what comes next. Things they care about - often among the only things they have left - are taken from them. They consciously accept that they will be one of the few people losing a lot for the sake of everyone not losing as much, anymore. It's hard, it's lonely, it sucks. Their only consolation aside from the outcome is how meaningful the journey and the relationships formed thereon were. "Better to have loved and lost" etc. etc.

And then a dimension hopping doofus shows up and makes things needlessly difficult for them for an often arbitrary and unrelated reason.
Of course said doofus wouldn't see their cheerful side, lol.

Also I second not taking mobile spin-offs too seriously. Mobius's lore is that all Gilgamesh are the same Gilgamesh, and that's its lore because it's a cross-over nostalgia grab. Ditto Dissidia. It's not automatically canon to every other game because of that; some games that might be thematically consistent with, some games it might be outright irreconcilable with, and for most it's just not ever going to come up, lol.

Seems like a limited-omniscient lampshade projected onto him by the writers as a wink-nudge for the players first, and everything else second.

[XykeVayaris]

I’ve just completed that battle tower on Mobius as well! That last line is really something to think about. Granted Mobius isn’t part of the numbered series, but I think it holds water. FFXIV WoL warped or bent, I’ll say yes. Twisted or broken, very far from it. WoL feels almost like a rubber band, stretch it and it will snap back at you, but how long will it be till WoL hits the breaking point?

I really like that headcannon about WoL being a primal and I’ll like to see it in play one day...