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  1. #16181
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    Daeriion_Aeradiir's Avatar
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    Daeriion Aeradiir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
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    Your post mentioned you started the dungeon 30 minutes - an hour before maintenance. Even with slow groups, that's still well above enough time to clear a dungeon before maintenance, thus he might not have had any sense of urgency. I wouldn't in his situation either. You can make all the assumptions you want or shift blame, but it doesn't really matter. You took a hostile and instigating action first, to which he responded badly, and neither of you communicated.

    Which as I said, communication could have solved eloquently and probably a TON faster than how it turned out, as BOTH you and the tank handled each other's actions poorly.
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    Last edited by Daeriion_Aeradiir; 06-01-2018 at 05:02 AM.

  2. #16182
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    He was not new to the dungeon. He had a leaf, so probably a level booster, so he got no sympathy from me nor the rest of the party as he knew what he was doing.

    At level 70, with tanking, if you aren't pulling at a reasonable pace and not using your cds properly, you should consider another job. At level 70, you should'nt be told to use cds, nor use your tank stance. This s*** should be common knowledge as a tank at a high level. Also considering that maint was gonna be soon and we wanted to hurry up and finish the roulette, he was intentionally slowing us down on purpose and trolling.

    Also Bara, this is a public forum, so I can share w/e the heck I want to share as it is within the subject of this thread, so you have no right to tell me what I should or shouldn't post.
    People acting the way you acted are why there are a shortage of tanks. People acting the way you do are the reason I won’t tank dungeons in anything other than a pre-made. Just because a person isn’t new to the dungeon doesn’t mean that they are comfortable with it—what if his first clear hadn’t been on a tank, but a DPS? There’s a lot less responsibility on DPS jobs in dungeons that tank or healer jobs. And really? Not being nice just because you suspected (yet cannot prove) that this person used a jump potion? While I agree that people who use jump potions should research how to play the jobs they jump, I don’t think that’s any reason to treat them so callously unless he did something worthy of that. Going a bit slow through a dungeon is not a good enough reason for you to be a jerk.

    I don’t have patience for those who act the way you do, and I would have initiated a kick for you the second you pulled before the countdown finished—if the tank was indeed being petty by tanking the mobs “on top of” you, I really can’t say that I blame him all that much because you were being far from nice. It’s hard enough finding tanks that actually DO use countdowns (even if they aren’t a complete necessity for dungeons); I’m actually surprised when tanks do use them. You really should be absolutely ashamed of yourself.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 06-01-2018 at 05:08 AM.
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  3. #16183
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    Usho's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirgellon View Post
    He clearly didn't need to hurry up that much if you still had time for another run....

    Wow another guy who didn't read my post. Okay. First of all, because he was intentionally slowing us down, we did the majority of the run without him and guess what? We saved time, thus I had just enough time to do one more roulette (trial roulette (Ifrit! lucky me! Quick 5min fight!).



    The two following you after the pull aren't agreeing with you. They are simply playing because someone pulled the boss lol... They either do that or wipe...
    Actually, we chatted and we agreed that he was trolling us intentionally knowing we had to get the run done faster. We agreed and we all we fought on without the bad tank. They didn't have to follow me, and in fact they didn't follow me as we all went in without the tank.


    The tank was an entitled snowflake and thought that just because he is the tank that means he has the power to slow down our run whenever he wants. He got a rude awakening. Tried to kill me near the end and he failed cause the healer was tired of the tank's bs and told him to stop wasting our time or we would kick him.



    Be a team player, work with your team or you get kicked. He made it all about him and didn't work with the team.


    He got the message at the final boss.


    You aren't making YOURSELF look good my friend. Pandering to bad troll tanks is not a good image. Just saiyan.


    /2 cents




    Ninja Edit: I suggest you guys stay on topic. Flaming me does nothing but derail the topic. Thank you.
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    Last edited by Usho; 06-01-2018 at 05:30 AM.

  4. #16184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    because he was intentionally slowing us down
    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    Actually, we chatted and we agreed that he was trolling us intentionally
    Any proof of this so-called intent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    The tank was an entitled snowflake and thought that just because he is the tank that means he has the power to slow down our run whenever he wants. He got a rude awakening. Tried to kill me near the end and he failed cause the healer was tired of the tank's bs and told him to stop wasting our time or we would kick him.
    The irony of you calling the tank an entitled snowflake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    You aren't making YOURSELF look good my friend. Pandering to bad troll tanks is not a good image. Just saying*
    The only one making themselves look bad is you.


    PS—it’s not a flame when we are calling out your very intentionally bad behavior. Can’t take the heat? Don’t post in the Duty Finder thread a story that very obviously paints you in a bad light.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 06-01-2018 at 05:15 AM.

  5. #16185
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    Wow another guy who didn't read my post. Okay. First of all, because he was intentionally slowing us down, we did the majority of the run without him and guess what? We saved time, thus I had just enough time to do one more roulette (trial roulette (Ifrit! lucky me! Quick 5min fight!).
    Except you outright said you made no effort whatsoever to communicate with him. Therefore, how can you know his intent without simply assuming it now to not come off as entitled?

    And it isn't flaming to call you out for being a jerk to someone. If you don't like criticism, don't post your experiences.
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  6. #16186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Except you outright said you made no effort whatsoever to communicate with him. Therefore, how can you know his intent without simply assuming it now to not come off as entitled?
    The intent was obvious and if you can't figure it out after that then there might something wrong with you. We got the message in the dungeon that maint. was starting in like 25 or so mins. So knowing that we needed to hurry and get the run over with so we get w/e we needed done before the game kicked us off, the tank made it a habit to pull like a snail, he wastes time with a pointless countdown, we start without him and stands he out the arena intentionally cause we didn't have time for that. We pulls a big group of mobs before second boss, uses little to NO cool downs at all, and despite the healer trying to keep him up, he dies, thus we waste MORE time.
    We get to second boss, he countdowns AGAIN and we had, had it at that point and we pulled without him. He again stands outside the arena. He tries to kill me with the last group of mobs(showing us how petty he is) in the place but healer at that point was pissed off at the tank and warned him that if he continued to screw around with us, knowing we needed to finish this run quick, that we were gonna kick him. He got the message at the final boss as he didn't countdown and instead went to the boss.


    In conclusion, the intent was clear and you don't words to know when someone is trolling. I learned that in FFXI. My pty agreed with me on the tank's trolling and we worked together to get the run done faster without him. Did you catch all that? or do you need me to repeat slowly for you?


    And it isn't flaming to call you out for being a jerk to someone. If you don't like criticism, don't post your experiences.
    Jerk? Haha. Funny. I've been called worse than that lady so you're attempts to flame me aren't hitting the mark. xD Who said I didn't like criticism? I knew snowflakes would try to pander to the bad tank in my post and I defended myself and my actions.



    Now can we act like civil adults and get back to the topic please?
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    Last edited by Usho; 06-01-2018 at 05:38 AM.

  7. #16187
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    Doom Moonwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
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    The problem in your case is there IS no topic. You just want to defend being an arse. You don't want a discussion, you want an echo chamber.

    Next time, think before you type on the Internet like a petulant child.
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  8. #16188
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    Crimson Law
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    Jerk? Haha. Funny. I've been called worse than that lady so you're attempts to flame me aren't hitting the mark. xD Who said I didn't like criticism? I knew snowflakes would try to pander to the bad tank in my post and I defended myself and my actions.
    Somehow, I'm not surprised you've been "called worse" things, given your attitude. Whether the tank had their faults or not still doesn't excuse your own lack of decorum, and even if the remainder of the party did go along with it that only means that they too had their faults. Furthermore, your use of the term "snowflakes" certainly isn't bolstering your case by any means. That's all I have to say on the matter.
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  9. #16189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    Wow another guy who didn\\\\\\'t read my post. Okay. First of all, because he was intentionally slowing us down, we did the majority of the run without him and guess what? We saved time, thus I had just enough time to do one more roulette (trial roulette (Ifrit! lucky me! Quick 5min fight!).

    I clearly did read your post. You said that he would have been hurrying up because maintenance was about to start, and then say that you had time for an entire other run after that... Those two statements do not make sense together. After reading the past few pages, I really don't expect you to understand this simple reality...

    You also clearly stated that you alone pulled that first boss. Now its everyone was going together?

    Maybe you should read your own posts before crying that no one else is reading them? You can't even keep your story straight right now...
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  10. #16190
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    In conclusion, the intent was clear and you don't words to know when someone is trolling. I learned that in FFXI. My pty agreed with me on the tank's trolling and we worked together to get the run done faster without him. Did you catch all that? or do you need me to repeat slowly for you?

    Jerk? Haha. Funny. I've been called worse than that lady so you're attempts to flame me aren't hitting the mark. xD Who said I didn't like criticism? I knew snowflakes would try to pander to the bad tank in my post and I defended myself and my actions.
    Again, you aren’t putting anyone in a bad light but yourself. And you keep calling everyone “snowflakes”, but I don’t think you actually know what that word means. Because it’s not applicable to those responding to you.

    Now can we act like civil adults and get back to the topic please?
    You don’t have to keep responding. Just saying.
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