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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
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    The rDPS app does, however, cut a lot closer to what can be described as accurate than FFLogs itself, though, is that an unfair claim to make? Is it also unfair to make the claim that, with the inaccuracies you posted in mind, there is still a gap and Machinist is still on the lower end of that gap? None of this, mind, at all changes that without having the proper classes to abuse bonus strength off of, Machinist's damage isn't all that great.
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    The rDPS app does, however, cut a lot closer to what can be described as accurate than FFLogs itself, though, is that an unfair claim to make?
    I wouldn't say the RDPS app is any more accurate than fflogs is. If anything, it's less accurate because of all the limitations the fflogs API has. They measure different things, but neither measure class-to-class efficiency. One measures personal damage while the other the effectiveness of raid buffs. If we wanted to make proper class comparisons, we'd actually have to make party composition comparisons and look at how the total party dps changes between setups. This isn't really possible with the current tools we have and there's no full party simulators out (at least yet) that we could use to compare outputs without RNG, human and strategy factors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Is it also unfair to make the claim that, with the inaccuracies you posted in mind, there is still a gap and Machinist is still on the lower end of that gap? None of this, mind, at all changes that without having the proper classes to abuse bonus strength off of, Machinist's damage isn't all that great.
    As far as the gap between BRD and MCH goes, there is one no doubt, at least a perceived one. But haven't seen any convincing numbers on how big that gap is in reality. Let's not forget that BRD also loses a lot of dps in a non-crit focused party comp.
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    Last edited by Kitfox; 05-31-2018 at 08:08 AM.