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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    Point still stands, is a mildly over-healing healer is not going to wreck a run. 10 seconds, 45 seconds, 60 seconds, 80 seconds, 160 seconds, don't really care either way. It's not going to break the run. It's just not a big enough deal for people to get their panties up in a bunch over.
    Yes, but that wasn't the point others were making.

    No one said it will wreck a run, simply that healers should be contributing as much as they can. It helps, it is beneficial to want to learn to play your job well and healers who do some DPS to help out are playing their job well and people simply wanted to correct the incorrect advice that you should just not care about overhealing. You should TRY to care about it and work to get better at avoiding over heals and utilizing your GCDs better.

    I think it is unfair to assume simply because people encourage a better way of play means they are hugely upset or have their "panties in a bunch" over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    EDIT: What really bothers me about this, are all the savage raiders thinking that they have some kind of right to talk down to people, especially those who have no intention of ever stepping into a savage raid like they're somehow better people.

    I really hate that kind of entitlement and puffed ego, you know? It is really off-putting and I tend to react badly to it.

    Yeah so you do savage raiding and crap. I'm supposed to be impressed by that? At the end of the day, you're another person sitting in front of a computer, same as me.
    So...savage raiders can't reply to threads with information otherwise they are just talking down to people or a huge ego? I mean...that seems unfair don't you think??

    So any time anyone offers better or more efficient ways of playing then they are just meanies with huge egos....If someone is passing around bad or objectively incorrect advice I would personally love if someone corrected them so I don't make the mistake of listening to the wrong thing.

    Honestly after reading this post....sorry, but you have a really bad attitude. You also would fall into your puffed ego category since you get this upset and defensive about people offering information rooted in higher skill.

    At the end of the day we all have to accept the fact that there are people more skilled than ourselves. I consider myself pretty good at this game and AST, but I know there are plenty of players better than me, know more than me, and can play AST better than me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    I think it is unfair to assume simply because people encourage a better way of play means they are hugely upset or have their "panties in a bunch" over it.
    Nothing wrong with a little encouragement, sure... but some of the things said in this thread border the nitpicking over little details kinda thing. Especially when we're talking about content where such little details rarely matter much.

    So...savage raiders can't reply to threads with information otherwise they are just talking down to people or a huge ego? I mean...that seems unfair don't you think??
    Depends on the tone. When it feels like they're looking down their noses at us "filthy casuals" then no, I don't like it.

    If they're respectful about it and if they're willing to accept that not everybody needs to play like a Savage Raider in casual content, then I don't mind it.

    So any time anyone offers better or more efficient ways of playing then they are just meanies with huge egos....If someone is passing around bad or objectively incorrect advice I would personally love if someone corrected them so I don't make the mistake of listening to the wrong thing.
    Not saying there's anything wrong with saying how something could be improved, but again, depends on tone.

    Honestly after reading this post....sorry, but you have a really bad attitude. You also would fall into your puffed ego category since you get this upset and defensive about people offering information rooted in higher skill.
    Perhaps it's the fact that I've had very bad experiences in WoW, that I have very little tolerance for elite players acting elite and looking down their noses at the casuals. I don't have anything against you, or anybody else here, but that kinda tone really rubs me the wrong way.

    At the end of the day we all have to accept the fact that there are people more skilled than ourselves. I consider myself pretty good at this game and AST, but I know there are plenty of players better than me, know more than me, and can play AST better than me.
    And at the end of the day, there are people who just want to simply have some casual fun in a game. There are days where I would like to see just how good I can play, and other days when I'm not feeling that great and I just want to be a little lazy, or maybe I don't trust my group and I overheal just so I don't have to deal with people dying and risking a wipe.

    And I've never once pulled threat, ever.

    Anyways I think I'll take a moment to step back and apologize, yes even to Hyo and that other girl, it's not that I have anything against either of you, but that whole "YOU MUST PLAY YOUR BEST AT ALL TIMES" stuff really irks me.

    I get you are Savage Raiders, and hey that's fine. But you know, normal Duty Finder is not Savage Raiders. It's kinda like... a Pro Baseball Player stepping into some backyard casual game and pointing out every little thing that everybody is doing wrong.

    Nobody wants that, and nobody cares about doing their absolute best performance. They're there just to have some fun.

    Now obviously, if someone *asks* them for said info, or if the guy says "hey, I see you're having trouble catching the ball, maybe you should try...." that's fine. But if the guy starts nitpicking over little stuff, then yeah, it's going to turn sour in a hurry.
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    Last edited by Maeka; 05-30-2018 at 09:30 AM.