Stop spamming Medica I & II/diurnal Aspected Helios

[Maeka]

Well, I frown upon it mostly because I think people go a bit too much into efficiency, and they do get annoyed and mad at other players when the efficiency loss isn't actually hurting them. Its about how other people are a burden or injure them if they aren't as efficient as the player likes, and people in this game need to chill a bit in casual content.

If there were a danger of the opposite, where people were too chill that we couldnt get any content done, thats one thing, but gamers really have a bad tendency to go the opposite way and use skill/efficiency as a tool to beat others up. It does get old, especially when most of this content is more about doing mechanics correctly to achieve success. Especially on forums, theres this "professional" mindset that treats people playing like this that they are working a job and are hindrances if they aren't good at it.

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These are some good points too.

There's also the fact that some of us just want to relax and have a little fun in a video game.

Some of us are not MLG. And that's totally fine in my opinion. If I'm not MLG, I don't try to act like MLG and I don't do things like Savage Raids. I know I'm not on that level of play, and I don't have the time and the skill to be on that level of play.

Someone above said "You should always improve yourself!" Eh, maybe? I don't know, if I'm having fun, nobody's dying, and we're clearing the content just fine, I'm not really seeing where there's a problem. If I throw out some extra heals, no big deal. Seriously. It isn't a big deal whatsoever. We'll all live at the end of the day.

Don't worry about me dragging my noob rear end into Savage, because I'm not going to do it. I know I'm not for Savage Raiding, and I have no current plans on touching it.

I "love" (sarcasm) it when some MLG Savage Raider or two pops up and acts like everybody should be acting at the peak of efficiency full-time even for Sastasha or Baby Ifrit or whatever. Seriously.

I wonder how they possibly have fun in the game when they are constantly crunching numbers... "I bet you could kill Ifrit 2 seconds faster if you casted that one extra Stone and let the tank get down to 1% HP at the very end!" or something... oi.

I know I'm being facetious here, but I just can't understand how people have fun in a video game while constantly over-analyzing and over-scrutinizing things. That's just not fun to me. If I wanted to do something like that, I'd get a degree in engineering and I'd go work at some place that those skills would be used, because I'm going to do that much work, I want paid for that.

Guess what, that's curiously what shielder healer are made for

Maybe some healers are more prone to getting nervous especially in dungeons they are unfamiliar with? *shrug* I guess we're not allowed to have emotions, right? We should all be robots that are constantly calculating just how many stones and aeroes we can squeeze in, just how low we can let the tank go before they die?

Personally, as a tank, I HATE that with a passion. I hate being almost dead constantly because the healer thinks his icon is red instead of green.

[Ruf]

Guess what, that's curiously what shielder healer are made for

Paper tank

Well, I frown upon it mostly because I think people go a bit too much into efficiency, and they do get annoyed and mad at other players when the efficiency loss isn't actually hurting them. Its about how other people are a burden or injure them if they aren't as efficient as the player likes, and people in this game need to chill a bit in casual content.

If there were a danger of the opposite, where people were too chill that we couldnt get any content done, thats one thing, but gamers really have a bad tendency to go the opposite way and use skill/efficiency as a tool to beat others up. It does get old, especially when most of this content is more about doing mechanics correctly to achieve success. Especially on forums, theres this "professional" mindset that treats people playing like this that they are working a job and are hindrances if they aren't good at it.

thats is very much valid & true

[KDSilver]

What are you talking about ?
I didn't mention dps anywhere, just making a small humour note because that guy was talking about prevention but prefer double diurnal.

I didn't even read your comment and the conversation, that's precisely why I quoted.
Relax lol.

[HyoMinPark]

RE: "DPS does more than 4K!"

Then that means that the healer's contribution is EVEN SMALLER! Thank you for proving my point that I made with the napkin math post.

And then you look at ACTUAL numbers and see that healers can hit 2,500 at 75th percentile. Considering there are 2 of them, that’s almost 5,000. Try again; nothing was proven other than you still don’t really know what you’re talking about. If you want to talk healer DPS, make another thread on it; plenty of others will come to it with more data to prove that you are incorrect about saying it doesn’t matter.

15-30 seconds. Wow. whoop-dee-doo.

And in content that matters, that 15~30 seconds can mean all the difference between meeting enrage and clearing, and dying to enrage.

Because quite simply, you resorted to "But, but, mah healer DPS!!!!"

No, you locked on to that argument because you couldn’t make one for the actual thread at hand, which the majority of my posts and others have been about overhealing, not healer DPS. Again, try again.

I "love" (sarcasm) it when some MLG Savage Raider or two pops up and acts like everybody should be acting at the peak of efficiency full-time even for Sastasha or Baby Ifrit or whatever. Seriously.

No one here is saying that. Quote for me where it was said that Savage-level play was expected in Ifrit Story Mode. I’ll wait.

I know I'm being facetious here, but I just can't understand how people have fun in a video game while constantly over-analyzing and over-scrutinizing things. That's just not fun to me. If I wanted to do something like that, I'd get a degree in engineering and I'd go work at some place that those skills would be used, because I'm going to do that much work, I want paid for that.

Well, at least you admit it. And it may startle you, but your definition of “fun” doesn’t apply to everyone. Some people enjoy number-crunching where as others don’t.

[Ruf]

What are you talking about ?
I didn't mention dps anywhere, just making a small humour note because that guy was talking about prevention but prefer double diurnal.

I didn't even read your comment and the conversation, that's precisely why I quoted.
Relax lol.

You arnt funny

[Ruf]

Edit incoming

No thank you Hyo, Your maths are wrong, all of them.

[KDSilver]

I'm pretty sure I have an audience, but thanks sharing your thoughts

[HyoMinPark]

No thank you Hyo

I wasn’t replying to you, I was replying to someone else, thanks. . Glad you’re so eager for my attention though.

Your maths are wrong, all of them.

No, they aren’t. Go check FFLogs for yourself, buddy.

[Ruf]

HyoMinPark : Go check FFlog, go check Fflog, go check Fflog, very good astrologian there. surprised you didn't tell me to watch a video lol

[Maeka]

And in content that matters, that 15~30 seconds can mean all the difference between meeting enrage and clearing, and dying to enrage.

WE.
are.
Not.
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About.
Content.
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Matters.

But I notice you "conveniently" left that out of your quoted text block, right? The part where I said "We're not talking about Savage Raids, we're talking about Duty Finder" and where I specifically agreed that every ounce of DPS is needed in Savage Raids?

Yeah, you didn't quote that.

Good job with that Half Truth fallacy. Awesome job there.

EDIT: And btw, even if it were 5k from the two healers, that changes the calculations by maybe 5-10 seconds at most.

No, you locked on to that argument because you couldn’t make one for the actual thread at hand, which the majority of my posts and others have been about overhealing, not healer DPS. Again, try again.

And yet again you missed the point that I agreed with you on half of what you said, and disagreed with the other half, and specifically replied to the part I disagreed with.