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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleipni View Post
    So yeah that "swiming" idea was not used that much during stormblood,im even wondering if they did not add it just to make a big marketing plan (come to our game you can swim and dive,with underwater activity).
    Swimming was actually added on request of the playerbase and a vocal part of the community was adamant about NOT including things like underwater combat, because it's notorious for feeling sluggish.

    One of the issues of swimming is that it's fundamentally another way to traverse terrain and traversing terrain is highly trivialized in this game. Since flying makes all modes of travel other than teleporting obsolete where it's available, that means swimming can only have relevance in/to areas where flying and porting isn't possible.
    But dungeons are linear, so swimming is pointless, as there is no choice between modes of travel nor exploration to be had. In cities, there isn't much to traverse and teleport is widespread. And underwater swimming is just slightly upgraded flying. Main difference is the ability to dismount and interact with objects while floating, which isn't particularly deep. There's no engaging mechanics to the process itself either.

    So yeah, there's not much they can do. There's no real point in adding any more travel options either. As such, I doubt they'll ever "add something like this" again, unless the community requests it.
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Swimming was actually added on request of the playerbase and a vocal part of the community was adamant about NOT including things like underwater combat, because it's notorious for feeling sluggish.

    One of the issues of swimming is that it's fundamentally another way to traverse terrain and traversing terrain is highly trivialized in this game. Since flying makes all modes of travel other than teleporting obsolete where it's available, that means swimming can only have relevance in/to areas where flying and porting isn't possible.
    But dungeons are linear, so swimming is pointless, as there is no choice between modes of travel nor exploration to be had. In cities, there isn't much to traverse and teleport is widespread. And underwater swimming is just slightly upgraded flying. Main difference is the ability to dismount and interact with objects while floating, which isn't particularly deep. There's no engaging mechanics to the process itself either.

    So yeah, there's not much they can do. There's no real point in adding any more travel options either. As such, I doubt they'll ever "add something like this" again, unless the community requests it.
    Imho they could try to use swimming and diving in eureka since that is a zone where flying is resrtricted. Since also the scope of the zone is exploring (somewhat) making use of that would be a smart idea, but maybe they are scared about ppl using rivers as a way to not get killed? If so what's the problem anyway?
    I don't expect pagos to use swimming (snow and ioce afterall) but I sure hope they remember it for the future
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    Gleipnir Valfalk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Imho they could try to use swimming and diving in eureka since that is a zone where flying is resrtricted. Since also the scope of the zone is exploring (somewhat) making use of that would be a smart idea, but maybe they are scared about ppl using rivers as a way to not get killed? If so what's the problem anyway?
    I don't expect pagos to use swimming (snow and ioce afterall) but I sure hope they remember it for the future
    Its an awesome idea,like some underwater cave to go safely from one point to an other !
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