All Greed on Alliance loot

[Penthea]

Greed only would be fine if

I can't think of a single scenario where greed only is fine. Never mind better than having need. No one asked for this change. SE wasted resources fixing a fictional problem and created real ones in the process.

There is a reason why mmorpgs have had need/greed/pass on loot for well over a decade - because it's easy to understand, it makes sense and it works.

[CoolCat]

Here hoping the emergency maintenance make it go away.

[KisaiTenshi]

I can't think of a single scenario where greed only is fine. Never mind better than having need. No one asked for this change. SE wasted resources fixing a fictional problem and created real ones in the process.

There is a reason why mmorpgs have had need/greed/pass on loot for well over a decade - because it's easy to understand, it makes sense and it works.

There are reasons why greed-only would work, but they apply to exactly the same reason why the lockout timer applies. If you are only going to desynth it, or turn it in for seals, then you shouldn't be able to "need it" at all.

Rather, either the ability to turn the items in for seals/desynth needs to be removed so players won't need on things they won't have any use for, or the developers need to roll out a smarter version of "need" that takes place at the end of the run.

Here's what I mean (and yes tokens would still be better, but I want less token junk inventory bloat overall)

Instead of rolling at every stage of the Alliance raid, hold off until after the final boss is defeated. This has the added bonus of players not getting distracted by the loot roll, and less likely chance of abandoning early.

Instead of individually rolling on each item, have the player rank the items they want with a 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12, or "not important" or "pass". When every player has decided, or the timeout expires, the game rolls each item based on which items players actually want. So the items with highest ranking (Eg main body gear usually) are rolled for first, and whoever wins, is excluded from all other want rolls, or if their inventory is full, they're excluded. For items that players indicate not-important, the game will offer a second chance roll of simple greed-only to players with inventory space for it. For "don't want" or the game knows they have (Eg minions, gear already in inventory or glamored) then they will auto-pass.

The benefit here is that while this is more complicated it ensures that only players who actually want the item roll on it, and aren't just "greed"'ing everything, since if they roll on something they don't get to roll on anything else that players want. So it's in their best interests of selecting "not important" on items they are only going to desynth or risk only getting one item at all.

[Enla]

Here hoping the emergency maintenance make it go away.

It likely won't. It takes ages for SE to recognize player feedback on these matters.

[Alleo]

As if SE would care what the players outside japan think.

But the players on the JP forums also dislike the change mostly.

(And wow nearly 300 votes, I think this is truly the highest liked topic that I ever saw on this forum. If they dont do anything even with that I will lose all hope in them listening to us..)

[BillyKaplan]

Post emergency maint, All Greed seems to persist

[Celef]

So I guess this is the only solution they fid to keep their game interesting ? Cause with only greed, you have less chance to get that item you need so you'll keep doing the raid again, and again, and again....and keep paying your sub again, and again, and again....

[SirSaber]

Since this new loot rule I didn't get any loot at all !

Did some Rabanastre to try get some Gear for glamour purposes... nothing ! On many occasions I saw the same person receive nearly every loot on the Raid !

This is much worse than I anticipated, on Ridorana it's not as bad since people have a weekly lock on the Raid but boy... the other Raids. People complaining in chat because of this loot rule is fairly common ( specially at the start of last week ).

Let's be honest, did it really hurt anyone if a person wanted a specific loot to play the Job who can "Need" on it ? If you don't play the Job why would you need the gear in the 1st place ?

I hope they change this rule or I'm doomed to never loot anything with my crappy dice rolls .... ;__;

[Ilan]

But the players on the JP forums also dislike the change mostly.

(And wow nearly 300 votes, I think this is truly the highest liked topic that I ever saw on this forum. If they dont do anything even with that I will lose all hope in them listening to us..)

I know that some or most japanese players don't like it and thats good because only their oppinion counts.

[Alleo]

So I guess this is the only solution they fid to keep their game interesting ? Cause with only greed, you have less chance to get that item you need so you'll keep doing the raid again, and again, and again....and keep paying your sub again, and again, and again....

Yet it seems to have the opposite reaction since people are already posting that they wont farm for glamour or gear that way and will just go into it once per week for the coin. So yeah...great job SE?

I know that some or most japanese players don't like it and thats good because only their oppinion counts.

Sorry then I misunderstood it. Well lets all just hope that all of our voices or at least the japanese ones are enough.